> Hi Matt, > But I can't resist to answer too :)
> > As you can see there is allways an "old boys" perspective and the "youth" > perspective. > It does not means one is better than other. Unfortunately the old boys have > seen this struggle of organizing and advertizing since many years backward. > And some have succeeded, some have failed. Re-read first posts related to jallib and feel "old boys" pessimism... > > BTW, jal V2 is already a popular language, with or without this new face of > webpage... so go forward exactly in the way you wish to, nobody will say no. > When I read specialized magazines or websites, I hear stuffs about Parallax, Basic Stamp, Arduino (and their associated languages) and lots of commercial compilers. Not much about jal, unfortunately... Cheers, Seb > > Vasile > > > > > On 10/30/09, mattschinkel <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> jalv2 + jallib is a powerful software, I suggest we don't hold back. >> We need to organize & advertize. This will greatly increase the number >> of users and contributers, and with more contributers you get more >> libs. Let's get to the next level whatever that is. Do you want jallib >> & jalv2 to be a popular language? >> >> I wish for jalv2 + jallib to be popular so I get to have more fun with >> more components and meet more friends, and hopefully some will be so >> interested they will help jalv2 work with bigger better PIC's and >> other microcontrollers. >> >> Rob, what may not seem important to you is quite important to others. >> If it is not important now then when will it be important? >> >> What does everyone else think? nobody is speaking up. >> >> >> Matt. >> >> On Oct 29, 2:38 pm, Sebastien Lelong <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > Hi again, >> > >> > Any thoughts on this ? Particularly, Rob, do you agree to move some >> > important content to a website (and, using DITA, making available to any >> > document). >> > >> > I feel if we add a "marketing layer" around our work, we may get jalv2, >> > jallib & friends one step further... >> > >> > Please advise ! (Rob, and all of you of course) >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Seb >> > >> > 2009/10/28 Sebastien Lelong <[email protected]> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Actually, thet fact this page looks beautiful was kind of a joke. I >> mostly >> > > agree with you: content is more important than how it looks. But does >> this >> > > mean how it looks isn't important ? I'm sure you'd say "no, it's >> important >> > > too". >> > >> > > As I understand, you don't think it's a priority, and there are more >> urgent >> > > things. Could you list some of them ? I can only see this servo >> controller >> > > :) We don't sell books, we don't sell anything in the sense of money, >> but we >> > > do sell our own dog food, and I think we're doing this very poorly. >> This has >> > > been confirmed by some users' feedback recently. >> > >> > > That's why we need to organize documentation (doing this on jalliblog >> was a >> > > bad idea -- of mine :(), that's why we need to centralize content on a >> > > website. And that website needs to be beautiful, it must be pleasant >> to >> > > visit it, so appearance serves content ! >> > >> > > Now few more words about JSG to DITA conversion. If JSG is DITAfied >> (...), >> > > we'll be able to put in any books, any webpages, etc... That's mainly >> why I >> > > would like to DITAfy (...) it. The "cerise sur le gâteau" is this nice >> > > webpage, that advertises how we write things, how normalized is our >> work, >> > > etc... A buildbot page will follow, as DITA & JAPP pages. This is >> about >> > > development, but it shows users how we develop, with which tools, >> where we >> > > go, etc... This has to be showned on a dedicated website, not just >> hide on a >> > > crappy google code wiki page. >> > >> > > Now I understand you'd still like to see this page on GC. I'll look >> for a >> > > way to convert DITA to GC wiki syntax (probably with an intermediary). >> > >> > > Cheers, >> > > Seb >> > >> > > 2009/10/28 Rob Hamerling <[email protected]> >> > >> > >> Hi Seb, >> > >> > >> Sebastien Lelong wrote: >> > >> > Here's a first attempt: >> > >> > >> >http://justanotherlanguage.org/content/jsg >> > >> > >> It look beautifuls indeed (not surprisingly!). >> > >> > >> > (Rob, see how it shines ! Don't you think our JSG deserves a nice >> > >> > website like this ? :)) >> > >> > >> Well, of course you can be proud of the result, but ... >> > >> > >> To me the contents of a book is much more valuable than the >> appearance. >> > >> I agree that a nice appearance of a book will be of influence on the >> > >> selling results in a book shop, but we are not selling books. JSG is >> > >> mandatory literature for a Jallib developer, so its appearance is not >> so >> > >> important. And there are more urgent things (than this discussion!). >> > >> > >> Regards, Rob. >> > >> > >> -- >> > >> Rob Hamerling, Vianen, NL (http://www.robh.nl/) >> > >> > > -- >> > > Sébastien Lelong >> > >http://www.sirloon.net >> > >http://sirbot.org >> > >> > -- >> > Sébastien Lelonghttp://www.sirloon.nethttp://sirbot.org- Hide quoted >> text - >> > >> > - Show quoted text - >> >> >> >> >> -- Sébastien Lelong http://www.sirloon.net http://sirbot.org --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "jallib" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jallib?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
