Okaaaay. And why does Open Office only use Java in the periphery? Or
why does Google prefer to sponsor Wine in order to run Picasa on *unix
rather than write it in Java?

Obviously some people think Java is not up to pair with a native
implementation, perhaps because they have a low tolerance for lag or
perhaps because they do not have multiple cores with GB of RAM. Let's
allow these people to also write Java programs.

/Casper

On Sep 18, 6:42 pm, Jess Holle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think the reason is largely historical at this point frankly.
>
> I think one could /now/ do a great Java in browser.  Java blew its
> chance in this regard by not being ready when Sun attempted to do this
> and getting a reputation as ill-suited for this.  Additionally many
> browsers were done by communities that felt divorced from Java (prior to
> OpenJDK).
>
> The issue is that no one wants to do a new browser now.  Everyone's
> glomming onto WebKit, Mozilla, or Opera.
>
> Casper Bang wrote:
> > Let's turn it on the head for a moment, whom of you are currently
> > reading this from HotJava or another Java based browser? Ok. And why
> > not?
>
> > /Casper
>
> > On Sep 18, 6:02 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
>
> >> Ahhh the irony...a Java development environment that only works on one
> >> platform.
>
> >> On Sep 18, 11:26 am, "Viktor Klang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >>> On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Joshua Marinacci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> >>> wrote:
>
> >>>> out of curiosity, why does your app need 70 jars?
>
> >>> 70 jars of Java on the wall, 70 jars of Java.
> >>> Take one down and pass it around, 69 jars of Java on the wall.
>
> >>>> On Sep 18, 2008, at 8:05 AM, Amarjeet Singh wrote:
>
> >>>> I just tried this IDE and a couple of quick points:
>
> >>>> - No support for multiple source paths.
> >>>> - No JUnit support. However, it does support ANT and hence JUnit tests
> >>>> could be an ANT task.
> >>>> - Quirks like, "one has to add each java jar file, individually from a
> >>>> dialog box". I was trying to import about 70 jar files and I finally 
> >>>> gave up
> >>>> after adding 5 jars.
> >>>> - No project types, except for a java application and a java applet. The
> >>>> whole web has been left out.
> >>>> - No import functionality from existing projects from a different IDE.
>
> >>>> It reminds me of the days when I was using Kawa, a native IDE for java.
>
> >>>> Just my thoughts. If you can extract speed out of it being a C++
> >>>> application capable of running and compiling java, with not too many 
> >>>> fancy
> >>>> requirements around enterprise application development, then go ahead.
>
> >>>> Btw, have you tried Blue-J? Blue-J is primarily a java language teaching
> >>>> IDE, but it sure should be capable of doing more.
>
> >>>> Regards
>
> >>>> Amarjeet
>
> >>>> On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 2:08 PM, allen cheung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
> >>>>> I'm a Java beginner and now sourcing a lightweight Java IDE for my
> >>>>> school projects. I used Eclipse before but it ran a bit slow on my 2
> >>>>> yrs old computer.
>
> >>>>> Anyone has tried JCODER,http://www.jcoder.com.
>
> >>>>> I'm using its Lite version and consider to switch to its full version.
>
> >>>>> Appreciate your comments.
>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Amarjeet Singh
> >>>> Phone: +91-98712-76661
>
> >>> --
> >>> Viktor Klang
> >>> Senior Systems Analyst
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