when I started java at uni all I had was textpad and a command line. You
didn't get much syntax-highlighting goodness or any code-completion, but it
forced you to think a bit harder which in retrospect was a good thing while
getting started. You didn't need to worry about the complexities of IDE's
and project layout etc etc, just how to write a main class, compile & run
it.

Allen, have you tried Blue Jay? the posse seem to rave about it for
beginners so that might be suitable. Otherwise I'd say feed your computer
some more RAM and give Netbeans a try, if you use the barebones IDE without
all the EE plugins it shouldn't be *too* bad.

If all you're after is a lightweight fast java-aware editor (simple code
completion, syntax highlighting, ant build, etc), then I fully recommend
jEdit [www.*jedit*.org] it's 100% free open source java, highly configurable
and very fast (once it loads). It has a million plugins that do (virtually)
anything you'd want to do. Caveat Emptor: to go beyond simple editing (eg -
code-completion) can take a fair amount of fiddling with installing plugins
etc. plus point though is that it has an interface to load plugins from, so
you don't need to do the eclipse voodoo of incanting magic urls to install
plugins.

sorry I've never tried JCoder so I can't comment on it, day-to-day I use
IntelliJ which is an excellent COTS (Commercial-Off-The-Shelf) product
written in java, it's not free but I find it a lot easier to use and be
productive with than eclipse. (personal opinon, not flamebait)

also, on the topic of java police:
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19/
*ducks*

2008/9/19 Casper Bang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>
> Religious followers have always burned the witch on the stake for not
> conforming. The OP clearly states his computer is slow and has trouble
> with Eclipse, obviously even more "full blown" Java IDE's like
> NetBeans and/or JDeveloper are not going to help him much then are
> they?!
>

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 2:08 PM, allen cheung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

I'm a Java beginner and now sourcing a lightweight Java IDE for my
school projects. I used Eclipse before but it ran a bit slow on my 2
yrs old computer.

Anyone has tried JCODER, http://www.jcoder.com.

I'm using its Lite version and consider to switch to its full version.

Appreciate your comments.

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