And also the folks who are willing to turn around anything and everything to bash Java.
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Casper Bang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Indecently, thanks for introducing him to the Java police. They are > plentiful and always ready to put people in place for holding > unapproved opinions or thinking outside the Java box. > > /Casper > > On Sep 18, 8:15 pm, "Amarjeet Singh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> I feel sorry for Allen, who had started this thread as an IDE recommendation >> question and sees this discussion going into the areas of native versus >> java... >> >> And he did mention that he was a beginner. Sure is a nice way to introduce >> him into the idiosyncrasies of java. Welcome Allen! >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Joshua Marinacci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > I see no purpose in writing a new HTML renderer in Java. In fact, I see no >> > point in doing a new one in C or any other language given that WebKit and >> > Gecko (the renderer at the core of FireFox) exist. Making a new renderer is >> > an incredible amount of work that would serve little purpose. I *do* see >> > value in a webbrowser written in Java, but using one of those two >> > renderers.- >> > Josh >> >> > On Sep 18, 2008, at 9:42 AM, Jess Holle wrote: >> >> > I think the reason is largely historical at this point frankly. >> >> > I think one could *now* do a great Java in browser. Java blew its chance >> > in this regard by not being ready when Sun attempted to do this and getting >> > a reputation as ill-suited for this. Additionally many browsers were done >> > by communities that felt divorced from Java (prior to OpenJDK). >> >> > The issue is that no one wants to do a new browser now. Everyone's >> > glomming onto WebKit, Mozilla, or Opera. >> >> > Casper Bang wrote: >> >> > Let's turn it on the head for a moment, whom of you are currently >> > reading this from HotJava or another Java based browser? Ok. And why >> > not? >> >> > /Casper >> >> > On Sep 18, 6:02 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL >> > PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > wrote: >> >> > Ahhh the irony...a Java development environment that only works on one >> > platform. >> >> > On Sep 18, 11:26 am, "Viktor Klang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL >> > PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Joshua Marinacci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > out of curiosity, why does your app need 70 jars? >> >> > 70 jars of Java on the wall, 70 jars of Java. >> > Take one down and pass it around, 69 jars of Java on the wall. >> >> > On Sep 18, 2008, at 8:05 AM, Amarjeet Singh wrote: >> >> > I just tried this IDE and a couple of quick points: >> >> > - No support for multiple source paths. >> > - No JUnit support. However, it does support ANT and hence JUnit tests >> > could be an ANT task. >> > - Quirks like, "one has to add each java jar file, individually from a >> > dialog box". I was trying to import about 70 jar files and I finally gave >> > up >> > after adding 5 jars. >> > - No project types, except for a java application and a java applet. The >> > whole web has been left out. >> > - No import functionality from existing projects from a different IDE. >> >> > It reminds me of the days when I was using Kawa, a native IDE for java. >> >> > Just my thoughts. If you can extract speed out of it being a C++ >> > application capable of running and compiling java, with not too many fancy >> > requirements around enterprise application development, then go ahead. >> >> > Btw, have you tried Blue-J? Blue-J is primarily a java language teaching >> > IDE, but it sure should be capable of doing more. >> >> > Regards >> >> > Amarjeet >> >> > On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 2:08 PM, allen cheung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: >> >> > I'm a Java beginner and now sourcing a lightweight Java IDE for my >> > school projects. I used Eclipse before but it ran a bit slow on my 2 >> > yrs old computer. >> >> > Anyone has tried JCODER,http://www.jcoder.com. >> >> > I'm using its Lite version and consider to switch to its full version. >> >> > Appreciate your comments. >> >> > -- >> > Amarjeet Singh >> > Phone: +91-98712-76661 >> >> > -- >> > Viktor Klang >> > Senior Systems Analyst >> >> -- >> Amarjeet Singh >> Phone: +91-98712-76661 > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
