I feel sorry for Allen, who had started this thread as an IDE recommendation question and sees this discussion going into the areas of native versus java...
And he did mention that he was a beginner. Sure is a nice way to introduce him into the idiosyncrasies of java. Welcome Allen! Regards On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Joshua Marinacci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I see no purpose in writing a new HTML renderer in Java. In fact, I see no > point in doing a new one in C or any other language given that WebKit and > Gecko (the renderer at the core of FireFox) exist. Making a new renderer is > an incredible amount of work that would serve little purpose. I *do* see > value in a webbrowser written in Java, but using one of those two renderers.- > Josh > > On Sep 18, 2008, at 9:42 AM, Jess Holle wrote: > > I think the reason is largely historical at this point frankly. > > I think one could *now* do a great Java in browser. Java blew its chance > in this regard by not being ready when Sun attempted to do this and getting > a reputation as ill-suited for this. Additionally many browsers were done > by communities that felt divorced from Java (prior to OpenJDK). > > The issue is that no one wants to do a new browser now. Everyone's > glomming onto WebKit, Mozilla, or Opera. > > Casper Bang wrote: > > Let's turn it on the head for a moment, whom of you are currently > reading this from HotJava or another Java based browser? Ok. And why > not? > > /Casper > > On Sep 18, 6:02 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Ahhh the irony...a Java development environment that only works on one > platform. > > On Sep 18, 11:26 am, "Viktor Klang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Joshua Marinacci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > out of curiosity, why does your app need 70 jars? > > > 70 jars of Java on the wall, 70 jars of Java. > Take one down and pass it around, 69 jars of Java on the wall. > > > On Sep 18, 2008, at 8:05 AM, Amarjeet Singh wrote: > > > I just tried this IDE and a couple of quick points: > > > - No support for multiple source paths. > - No JUnit support. However, it does support ANT and hence JUnit tests > could be an ANT task. > - Quirks like, "one has to add each java jar file, individually from a > dialog box". I was trying to import about 70 jar files and I finally gave up > after adding 5 jars. > - No project types, except for a java application and a java applet. The > whole web has been left out. > - No import functionality from existing projects from a different IDE. > > > It reminds me of the days when I was using Kawa, a native IDE for java. > > > Just my thoughts. If you can extract speed out of it being a C++ > application capable of running and compiling java, with not too many fancy > requirements around enterprise application development, then go ahead. > > > Btw, have you tried Blue-J? Blue-J is primarily a java language teaching > IDE, but it sure should be capable of doing more. > > > Regards > > > Amarjeet > > > On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 2:08 PM, allen cheung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > I'm a Java beginner and now sourcing a lightweight Java IDE for my > school projects. I used Eclipse before but it ran a bit slow on my 2 > yrs old computer. > > > Anyone has tried JCODER,http://www.jcoder.com. > > > I'm using its Lite version and consider to switch to its full version. > > > Appreciate your comments. > > > -- > Amarjeet Singh > Phone: +91-98712-76661 > > > -- > Viktor Klang > Senior Systems Analyst > > > > > > > > > > > -- Amarjeet Singh Phone: +91-98712-76661 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
