As I said, I give up. The net is full of people who just won't hear what is
being said. I never said that a site can't ever go down. My effort has been
to say that a site should inform its users in some way as to why the site is
down. The most direct method would be to have a page up that tells users the
site is down. That can be done in a number of ways. A site should never just
disappear. There were no announcements, no page saying they were down, no
emails, nothing. People were asking questions in this group about the site
because it appeared that they turned off the lights and left. That perhaps
something was going on at Oracle. That is bad public relations and to
minimize the damage, getting the word out there proactively is best.

Anyway, I give up on this topic. I have made my point and no one is
interested except to tell me why I'm wrong in some way.


On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 4:24 AM, Christian Catchpole <[email protected]
> wrote:

> I just don't think you realise the reality of networks.  Its as if you
> are saying "no site should ever be down, including the JCP".  It may
> be something beyond their control.  It might have been their service
> provider making a mistake.
>
> If twitter and facebook can go down, I think the JCP can.
>
> On Jun 4, 3:50 pm, Robert Casto <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I'm quite surprised at everyone making so many allowances. If this site
> were
> > Amazon.com, Apple.com, or CNN.com; you can bet they would have had
> something
> > up right away. I know this site isn't that big or as important. I guess
> I'm
> > alone on this one. Sorry to trouble everyone.
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Peter Becker <[email protected]
> >wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On 03/06/10 14:41, Robert Casto wrote:
> >
> > >> It doesn't matter what happened. It is not that hard to change some
> domain
> > >> records to point to another machine somewhere and put up a simple page
> that
> > >> tells people what is going on.
> >
> > > In some sense it actually is -- due to the fact that domain records are
> > > cached across the world. Changing the entry is easy, but then it can
> take a
> > > very long time to affect people. And it can take as long to go back.
> >
> > > Normally it should be pretty straightforward to route the HTTP traffic
> to a
> > > different server (a netbook can serve a small static page easily). If
> your
> > > network is disconnected from the world life gets much harder, though.
> >
> > > And of course there is always the chance that people believed in the
> > > "nearly fixed" a bit too much. After all setting up an alternative page
> > > takes resources from fixing the real problem.
> >
> > >  Peter
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