As someone who has some flavour of Ubuntu on every
desktop/laptop/netbook I use (including a MacBook Pro and a recent
iMac), I have been wondering a lot about why people like MacOS better.
Everytime I use it I get annoyed, and I truly believe only part of that
is the fact that I'm not used to it.
Your post clarified some points. I had figured out that (a) people still
judge Linux based on the wrong distributions and (b) the office
applications draw people in. The latter is perfectly valid IMO, not only
due to the availability of MS Office, but also the Apple products. I
personally don't mind OpenOffice, but I can see why people want the
other options. I've been fortunate enough to hardly use any office
products and having access to a terminal server.
Your second (c) is a good point I hadn't considered. I can see (d) to
some extent, also that could work by looking at the quality of the PCs
they buy their devs, too.
I think (a) and (b) are misguided, most likely by looking at the wrong
distribution. Not only do I use Java and Apache from the Ubuntu
installation, but also Tomcat, Maven and Apache -- which means they are
all integrated into the one update mechanism I use. Ubuntu defaults to
OpenJDK, but it is pretty easy to install the Sun JDK.
My first experiments in using Eclipse from the Ubuntu 10.04 repositories
seems to indicate that they have that finally under control, too. It's a
3.5.2, plugin installation seems to work and the startup time is
impressive. Of course most Mac users seems to be IDEA users, too --
another preferences I don't share (at least not for pure Java development).
But hey -- it's only my opinion and a lot of it is about personal taste.
I just sometimes get annoyed by MacOS fanboys pretending it's all
perfect, despite the fact that it is pretty easy to find flaws. Did I
mention that I have a very strong dislike of that startup sound from the
not-BIOS? :-)
And regarding the non-innovation of KDE/Gnome (I believe that was
Micheal Neale):
- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeMenu (implemented in 10.04)
- http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/333
- http://nepomuk.semanticdesktop.org
Not that I really think all these ideas are good, but they are just some
examples that come to mind in attempts of innovation. In other areas
Gnome and KDE just imitate (in fact I'd say the new Ubuntu looks way too
much like MacOS), but sometimes they imitate quite well. KDE used to be
the better Windows for a long time, now they have their own character.
Peter
On 11/06/10 19:08, Kevin Wright wrote:
The problem with developing on windows is that servers are typically
running some flavour of linux, so the development environment and the
production environment can be wildly different.
tools like cygwin help, a lot, but it's still not perfect parity...
There's also the issue that Windows machines tend to be far more
locked down/restricted by corporate policy, and something like an
enforced anti-virus scanner can be crippling to activities that touch
a lot of files (such as compiling)
That normally then leaves OSX or linux as the preferred choices. I
tend to favour OSX here for a few reasons:
a. a lot of useful dev stuff comes pre-installed and configured out of
the box (think java, apache httpd, etc.)
b. I find I have to spend less time managing updates and the like
c. Microsoft Office. Sad, but true. OpenOffice is going from
strength to strength, but conversion to/from MS formats is still not
perfect,
c. Apple just don't supply lower-specced hardware. If I say I want a
17" macbook pro then there's no real scope for the bean counters to
parlay that into a different model with lower resolution. I *like* my
screen real-estate. This is perhaps one of the few occasions when the
ability to run on almost anything is not so desirable in linux :)
d. An employer who's willing to buy Macs has shown willingness to
invest in decent tools for their developers, I take this as a very
good sign when considering any new role.
On 11 June 2010 09:33, jitesh dundas <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Really! strange - I never thought of doing that..
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 4:22 AM, Oscar Hsieh <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
The problem with windows xp is that everyone login as admin.
On Jun 10, 2010, at 16:34, "Vince O'Sullivan"
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On Jun 10, 6:53 pm, Fabrizio Giudici
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
(*) While I have Windows 7 installed on my MacBook
Pro, and sometimes
run it for testing, and it's without antivirus, I
never run it when
I'm not behind my office firewall, and I don't read
email with it. So
I can't say whether it's more secure than Windows XP.
I stil remember
I've been running Windows 7 on my PC without antivirus,
since it came
out. Hotmail is my main email and I chop and change
between IE8 and
Firefox. I haven't had a virus problem yet.
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