On 11 June 2010 10:59, jitesh dundas <[email protected]> wrote: > Well to be honest, I like what you wrote here.. > > On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Kevin Wright <[email protected]>wrote: > >> The problem with developing on windows is that servers are typically >> running some flavour of linux, so the development environment and the >> production environment can be wildly different. >> *Well, this could be an issue in Mac and Linux or even Mac and Windows , >> though the latters I know gives not much issue.. What if we wanted to keep a >> dual operating system on a machine..* >> > dual-booting is far too slow for any practical purpose. I'm not going to boot into windows to read some specification document, then reboot to implement it in my linux dev environment. It ain't happening!
Virtualisation is fairly usable though, especially the latest release of virtualbox which *finally* added multi-head support. Having seamless windowing mode restricted to a single monitor was, by far, by biggest objection to this approach in the past. > tools like cygwin help, a lot, but it's still not perfect parity... >> *cygwin is for Windows..Are there any for Linux?* >> > Erm... linux doesn't need cygwin. Cygwin is a subset of linux tools made available for the windows platform. Why would you want/need a subset of Linux for Linux? > >> > There's also the issue that Windows machines tend to be far more locked >> down/restricted by corporate policy, and something like an enforced >> anti-virus scanner can be crippling to activities that touch a lot of files >> (such as compiling) >> *However, this does ensure that their OS is less attack prone - right? >> How do you explain their need to protect their business with this? Surely, >> they cannot be expected to go against their strengths. I think doing this >> will hurt them very badly..I consider this just the start....* >> > Are you stating that this indicates OSX to be more secure? Or that windows is more secure because of the availability of anti-virus tools? I don't really understand the point you're trying to make. Windows needs anti-virus, that's a fact. OSX and Linux far less so, also a fact. I won't go into the reasons *why* this is the case, it isn't a simple one-line explanation. But it is true that sysadmins like to apply blanket security restrictions better suited to typical office users, that group policy makes it easy for them to do so, and that such policies often conflict with the needs of advanced users such as developers. > That normally then leaves OSX or linux as the preferred choices. I tend to >> favour OSX here for a few reasons: >> >> a. a lot of useful dev stuff comes pre-installed and configured out of the >> box (think java, apache httpd, etc.) >> >> b. I find I have to spend less time managing updates and the like >> >> c. Microsoft Office. Sad, but true. OpenOffice is going from strength to >> strength, but conversion to/from MS formats is still not perfect, >> *The above two points....agreed my friend...Really. You cannot go against >> the fact that MS-office has the maximum market right now...You cannot ignore >> MS-Office for sure...ANd Open Office still is not that friendly (Plz correct >> me if I am wrong..)* as compared with the former >> > > >> c. Apple just don't supply lower-specced hardware. If I say I want a 17" >> macbook pro then there's no real scope for the bean counters to parlay that >> into a different model with lower resolution. I *like* my screen >> real-estate. This is perhaps one of the few occasions when the ability to >> run on almost anything is not so desirable in linux :) >> *That is quite a point. Is Microsoft listening...?* >> > Microsoft don't sell computers, so this really doesn't apply to them... > >> d. An employer who's willing to buy Macs has shown willingness to invest >> in decent tools for their developers, I take this as a very good sign when >> considering any new role. >> *Could you please provide details as to which provider and which >> clinet..Are you referring to development tools.Again, it would be nice to >> have further specifications..* >> > Eh? So if I'm applying for a job, and the company I'm applying for has said they'll buy me a MacBook... MacBooks are not cheap and so this is a sign to me that they won't cut costs in other silly ways that make my job harder. How does this have anything to do with "providers", "clients", "specifications", etc? REgards, > jd > >> >> On 11 June 2010 09:33, jitesh dundas <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Really! strange - I never thought of doing that.. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 4:22 AM, Oscar Hsieh <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> The problem with windows xp is that everyone login as admin. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jun 10, 2010, at 16:34, "Vince O'Sullivan" <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Jun 10, 6:53 pm, Fabrizio Giudici <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> (*) While I have Windows 7 installed on my MacBook Pro, and sometimes >>>>>> run it for testing, and it's without antivirus, I never run it when >>>>>> I'm not behind my office firewall, and I don't read email with it. So >>>>>> I can't say whether it's more secure than Windows XP. I stil remember >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I've been running Windows 7 on my PC without antivirus, since it came >>>>> out. Hotmail is my main email and I chop and change between IE8 and >>>>> Firefox. 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