UK budget hahaha!

Yes you are correct, the UK economy is finished.  You are right to
consider emigration.

I think your scope is too limited however.

On your list I think Canada is the best option.  A very strong and
disciplined government and a good environment for technology
(especially in Toronto, Ottawa and Vancouver).

Australia - A large banana republic with little technological
influence.  If you plan to mine coal or become a farmer it could be a
good choice.
                 The only problem is that there is no rain.  IMHO
Australia is finished.

New Zealand - A beautiful country (with rain) and a nice quality of
life.  Problem is there are no jobs.
                        A friend of mine married a girl from NZ and
promised her that they would go there to live.
                        He is a Java Enterprise Content Management
expert (in Washington DC he never had problems finding work) and
explains to me that the job situation is so bad there
                        that most people want to move to Australia
(another country with few tech jobs).

Canada - Maybe the world's best country, full of smart people and
pragmatic projects.  Jobs take a while to find, but do exist.
                Toronto is good because it is a banking city, their
banks however are healthy unlike US, UK and Euro banks.
                Also marijuana smoking is common place (if you need to
relax after your UK journey).

What I think  you are missing is a lot of good countries in the "so
called" third world.

These include:

Korea (south)
Taiwan
Brazil (an open source powerhouse)
Poland
Estonia (full of beautiful women who marry Java guys)
Chile


Open your mind to the non-English speaking world.








On Jun 20, 1:37 pm, Carl Jokl <[email protected]> wrote:
> After a rather bleak after dinner discussion I thought I might start
> this thread. I was wanting to start this discussion.
>
> I hope the topic may be relevant given at least 2 of the Java Posse
> have gone through the process of emigrating for their careers sake. My
> sister emigrated to Australia a number of years ago. One of my long
> standing friends is soon to emigrate to Canada. My most trusted Java
> mentor and former technical manager was trying to emigrate to Canada.
>
> A number of different people have been telling me that if they were my
> age and in my position they would emigrate. These are not the "were
> all doomed" crowed but perfectly conservative sensible people.
>
> I have reached a decision that I am going to apply to emigrate and
> just see what happens.
>
> The most logical place for British people to emigrate is generally one
> of the other British commonwealth countries namely Australia, Canada
> and New Zealand.
>
> I am favouring Canada. I already have family in Australia. The Illegal
> Argument Podcast is giving me serious Kiwi envy. I have nothing
> against New Zealand and hear very good things about it but I hear it
> is very hard to get permission to emigrate there i.e. the New Zealand
> government can afford to be very picky about who they allow to
> emigrate there because there is so much demand and only limited jobs.
>
> Pay day is on the 28th. I would like to use some of the money to pay
> for processing emigration papers (probably between one and two hundred
> pounds or so). I need to make a decision about which one to apply to
> or end up applying to more than one.
>
> I care about the research I am doing but if brutal cuts to the
> Universities continue then I really fear the University may just axe
> it due to lack of money. If that happens I could see if another
> University wanted to continue it. Even if I get to finish as planned,
> emigration papers can take a long long time to process anyway and
> there is no guarantee I would get approval.
>
> The emergency budget comes out tomorrow. Big tax hikes are expected
> and big cuts everywhere. I expect the UKs best professionals who can
> emigrate will get fed up and leave if they can (this isn't to crazy a
> bet as historically this has happened under similar circumstances).
> The UK's loss could well be other countries (particularly British
> commonwealth) gain.
>
> I would just ask that those reading to be considerate as if you knew
> how scary it can be not knowing what is going to happen and how bad
> things will get it a country which feels so broken and starting to
> come apart. I am not alone feeling that way from the conversations I
> am having.

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