Don't underestimate the value of family -- and Australia is a nice enough
place.

Cheers
Kerry in New Zealand (which he also likes very much :-)

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 5:37 AM, Carl Jokl <[email protected]> wrote:

> After a rather bleak after dinner discussion I thought I might start
> this thread. I was wanting to start this discussion.
>
> I hope the topic may be relevant given at least 2 of the Java Posse
> have gone through the process of emigrating for their careers sake. My
> sister emigrated to Australia a number of years ago. One of my long
> standing friends is soon to emigrate to Canada. My most trusted Java
> mentor and former technical manager was trying to emigrate to Canada.
>
> A number of different people have been telling me that if they were my
> age and in my position they would emigrate. These are not the "were
> all doomed" crowed but perfectly conservative sensible people.
>
> I have reached a decision that I am going to apply to emigrate and
> just see what happens.
>
> The most logical place for British people to emigrate is generally one
> of the other British commonwealth countries namely Australia, Canada
> and New Zealand.
>
> I am favouring Canada. I already have family in Australia. The Illegal
> Argument Podcast is giving me serious Kiwi envy. I have nothing
> against New Zealand and hear very good things about it but I hear it
> is very hard to get permission to emigrate there i.e. the New Zealand
> government can afford to be very picky about who they allow to
> emigrate there because there is so much demand and only limited jobs.
>
> Pay day is on the 28th. I would like to use some of the money to pay
> for processing emigration papers (probably between one and two hundred
> pounds or so). I need to make a decision about which one to apply to
> or end up applying to more than one.
>
> I care about the research I am doing but if brutal cuts to the
> Universities continue then I really fear the University may just axe
> it due to lack of money. If that happens I could see if another
> University wanted to continue it. Even if I get to finish as planned,
> emigration papers can take a long long time to process anyway and
> there is no guarantee I would get approval.
>
> The emergency budget comes out tomorrow. Big tax hikes are expected
> and big cuts everywhere. I expect the UKs best professionals who can
> emigrate will get fed up and leave if they can (this isn't to crazy a
> bet as historically this has happened under similar circumstances).
> The UK's loss could well be other countries (particularly British
> commonwealth) gain.
>
> I would just ask that those reading to be considerate as if you knew
> how scary it can be not knowing what is going to happen and how bad
> things will get it a country which feels so broken and starting to
> come apart. I am not alone feeling that way from the conversations I
> am having.
>
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