yes I don't think the *actual* damage to google will be another other
then comically insignificant. I can't see how either side would
benefit.

All Oracle are doing are making people nervous, confirming fears, and
generally causing a whole lot of frustration when everyone knows there
can be no benefit.

At first I thought it may have been a re-assertion of the "one java"
portability, which whilst I don't agree with personally could almost
make a tiny bit of sense. But this, no... it is madness - the thing is
I can't imagine how this could be good for Oracle at all. really no
chance of short term gain, and certainly a good chance of long term
damage to a technology stack that is critical to them.

(I will refrain from the doucheyness of standing behind patents as
there is plenty said about that).





On Aug 13, 3:55 pm, Robert Casto <[email protected]> wrote:
> Most of the patents involved were methods and procedures for how something
> is done. All the patents appeared old with the latest being 2005. You could
> make the case that since Sun didn't defend these patents for years, there is
> not much Oracle can do about it now. Patent law is really strange in this
> regard, but it is my understanding that you have to do things to defend your
> patents. Letting them sit for 5 years and then being bought by someone else
> and then defended may not sit well with the judges.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 1:12 AM, Mark Derricutt <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I think that's kinda irrelevant ( the java source anyway ) as some of the
> > patents I've seen talk about class processing ( conversion to dalvik ),
> > permissions/acls and things that are more of a VM/toolchain side of things.
>
> > Having the code in clojure, scala or the like would still involve the same
> > - UNLESS someone rewrote the scala/clojure compilers to output Dalvik
> > bytecode directly...
>
> > --
> > Pull me down under...
>
> > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 4:02 PM, JamesJ <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> So, the obvious solution is for Google to stick it to 'em, ditch Java,
> >> adopt another of the JVM languages (Scala, etc) so the port will be
> >> easy. (Wink Wink)   It will just be one more step for Java towards
> >> irrelevance in the mobile computing space.
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