Indeed, the more I think about this the less sense it starts to make. Though, most folks think this is about java (the language). It really isnt, it's about VM technology. Which makes it all the stranger to attack *JAVA*-based VM. Wasn't there a non-java using target out there?
The play here might be to get google to 'buy' the java assets, but that really doesn't mesh at all with what ellison's been saying. Perhaps he's been looking at the numbers and doesn't want to be java's steward anymore. Crazy risky, though if that really does happen, I'll be a happy camper. On Aug 13, 8:00 am, Michael Neale <[email protected]> wrote: > yes I don't think the *actual* damage to google will be another other > then comically insignificant. I can't see how either side would > benefit. > > All Oracle are doing are making people nervous, confirming fears, and > generally causing a whole lot of frustration when everyone knows there > can be no benefit. > > At first I thought it may have been a re-assertion of the "one java" > portability, which whilst I don't agree with personally could almost > make a tiny bit of sense. But this, no... it is madness - the thing is > I can't imagine how this could be good for Oracle at all. really no > chance of short term gain, and certainly a good chance of long term > damage to a technology stack that is critical to them. > > (I will refrain from the doucheyness of standing behind patents as > there is plenty said about that). > > On Aug 13, 3:55 pm, Robert Casto <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Most of the patents involved were methods and procedures for how something > > is done. All the patents appeared old with the latest being 2005. You could > > make the case that since Sun didn't defend these patents for years, there is > > not much Oracle can do about it now. Patent law is really strange in this > > regard, but it is my understanding that you have to do things to defend your > > patents. Letting them sit for 5 years and then being bought by someone else > > and then defended may not sit well with the judges. > > > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 1:12 AM, Mark Derricutt <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I think that's kinda irrelevant ( the java source anyway ) as some of the > > > patents I've seen talk about class processing ( conversion to dalvik ), > > > permissions/acls and things that are more of a VM/toolchain side of > > > things. > > > > Having the code in clojure, scala or the like would still involve the same > > > - UNLESS someone rewrote the scala/clojure compilers to output Dalvik > > > bytecode directly... > > > > -- > > > Pull me down under... > > > > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 4:02 PM, JamesJ <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> So, the obvious solution is for Google to stick it to 'em, ditch Java, > > >> adopt another of the JVM languages (Scala, etc) so the port will be > > >> easy. (Wink Wink) It will just be one more step for Java towards > > >> irrelevance in the mobile computing space. > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "The Java Posse" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > [email protected]<javaposse%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups > > > .com> > > > . > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > > -- > > Robert Castowww.robertcasto.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
