On Nov 9, 5:15 pm, Casper Bang <[email protected]> wrote:
> I admire your optimism, that we
> can just humour the firemen and enjoy the pretty fire, but I remain
> unconvinced that Apache's "obstructionism" is to blame for the sorry
> state of Java... Sun handled that all by themselves.

Please be careful not to put words in my mouth, or Fabrizio's. I did
not say that ASF's obstructionism is responsible for the "sorry state
of Java" (and I didn't say _that_ either… on the server and on
Android, Java is doing great).  Frankly, I don't think the ASF's JCP-
related actions have had a substantial impact at all, except to
discredit them in the minds of a small minority of developers, myself
included.

-Chris

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