If your definition of a "senior developer", means one whose CV matches your buzz word stream 100%, then good luck with that because I doubt if you will find one. The Java ecosystem is so diverse and littered with different technologies throughout the stack, that it makes little sense to expect to find a perfect piece in the puzzle. Unless of course you bring in consultants who specialized in a certain stack (which is then usually old and/or proprietary, in which case you're probably f..... anyway).
Chances are that a "senior developer" will observe patterns, honor practices and recognize pitfalls, regardless the technology. In any event, the good "senior developers" which may fit your bill, will likely have reached a point in life where they no longer value paycheck over happiness (freedom, inspiration, motivation...) and mandated old technology is as sexy as a cold, wet and dirty kitchen cloth/rag. /Casper On Aug 25, 5:20 pm, Steel City Phantom <[email protected]> wrote: > I work out of Pittsburgh. we have two world class universities about a half > hour down the road. Carnegie Mellon University's computer science > department is one of the best in the world, and University of Pittsburgh > isn't shabby either. so i have to ask, where are all the good java > developers? > > we have been trying to staff out a project for 6 weeks now. every resume we > get is from people with 4-5 years experience. I do tech interviews on them > for the technologies we are using and its all the same, they have a vague > understanding of how to use the technologies (spring, hibernate, struts, > nothing major) work, but for my needs, that puts them in the class of jr > developer. i need senior guys that have done this already, lived the > learning curve, knows how to fix issues, knows how to squeeze every last bit > of functionality out of these technologies, and i can't find them. > > we are paying good market rates for these guys, so its not like we are being > cheap. i refuse to believe that Google swallowed all the good java guys > when they opened their development center here in Pittsburgh a few years > ago. > > its so bad that i had one candidate that i interviewed a few weeks ago. he > got irritated with me when i was drilling him on the technology. his > actually had the huevos to say to me "I have a masters degree from CMU in > computer science, i don't care what technology you are using, i can figure > it out and use it" to which i replied "that may be true, but that makes you > a junior developer in my eyes. as a senior developer, im not paying you to > figure it out, im paying you to step in and do it" he had 4 years > experience writing web pages for a marketing firm. why the recruiter even > thought he would pass the test is still beyond me. > > where have all the good guys gone? is a 9-10 year experienced very seasoned > java guy really demanding salaries north of 90K now or what? > > -- > You want it fast, cheap, or right. Pick two!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
