> > That said, where I disagree with Oleg in the email thread linked is that I > don't think it's right that Alauda is tied to this account, or any other > participant for that matter... I think it's great that Xiaojie is stepping > up to the plate. All the powers to him!! IIUC, that's "subscription > account" and not "service account."
My suggestion was based on Rick's preference towards a "service account" in the thread. Personally I do not have any preference. I want to register the account as an organization. But I need an > organization name and code. Oleg told me that there is not a real entity > for Jenkins. I also do some homework about this. So my advice is that we > register this account as an individual > Perfectly fine with me Best regards, Oleg On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 6:39:37 AM UTC+3, Rick wrote: > > Hi, > > I totally agree with the idea that Jenkins WeChat running under the > community organization. It's fair for every contributor. My dream is that > let more and more people join Jenkins party. But I met some situations > during the process. > > First, I probably must use a personal email to register. I need to receive > a verification code to complete the form. But the contact email could be > [email protected] <javascript:>. > > Second, the subscription account may be the best solution. There are five > types of WeChat Account Entity. They are government, media, company, > individual and other organizations. I want to register the account as an > organization. But I need an organization name and code. Oleg told me that > there is not a real entity for Jenkins. I also do some homework about this. > So my advice is that we register this account as an individual. More > detail page is here > https://mp.weixin.qq.com/acct/contractorpage?action=showreg&step=3&lang=zh_CN > . > > It’s really great to get your support. I want to take the initiative. And > I think the Chinese Localization SIG team members are happy to help the > Jenkins WeChat. We have a regular video meeting. Every contributor could > get the meeting time in the calendar https://jenkins.io/event-calendar/. > This’s open for everyone. > > BTW, if there is no other concerns or questions. Once you think ok with my > solution and advice, then I will begin my job. > > > Best, > > Rick (Zhao Xiaojie) > On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 3:22 AM Kohsuke Kawaguchi <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> I'm really excited with the prospect of Jenkins project getting WeChat >> presence. I've been to China a few times myself, I have my own WeChat >> account, and I know how big and ubiquitous this is over there. >> >> That said, where I disagree with Oleg in the email thread linked is that >> I don't think it's right that Alauda is tied to this account, or any other >> participant for that matter. The idea of this WeChat account is for it to >> be the "official" Jenkins account on WeChat. Trademark sublicensing request >> is to allow the requester to use the name in question for their purposes >> outside official community activity. >> >> From the community's perspective, where this manifests as a question is >> how to share the access to this account with others. For example, what if >> Alauda moves on and stops engaging the Jenkins community? What if it gets >> acquired? I'm not assuming any malice or meaning to distrust anybody here, >> but it's a part of the basic safe guards for shared community assets. This >> asset is to be controlled by the community, not by Alauda --- I think >> everyone agrees on that here, but let's be very clear about that! >> >> I think the right thing to do is to setup an account that does not >> require any company, Alauda or not, to proxy this. Then provided that this >> is reasonably easily possible, this account should be tied and owned by the >> email address of some community team, say infra team or Chinese >> Localization SIG. Then when it comes to the actual operation of this, I >> think it's great that Xiaojie is stepping up to the plate. All the powers >> to him!! IIUC, that's "subscription account" and not "service account." >> >> None of this should involve trademark sublicensing, because this IS the >> official community effort whose authority is chained to the existing >> governance structure. >> >> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 12:22 AM arch <[email protected] <javascript:>> >> wrote: >> >>> On behalf on Alauda, I'd like to request the permission to use >>> the following name that uses 'Jenkins' in it: "Jenkins WeChat Account". >>> >>> WeChat is a very popular app in China. Most of the people have a WeChat >>> account in here. So I thought it's a great place to help grow the Jenkins >>> Community. We will post some events like JAM on it. And some articles >>> (original or translated from jenkins.io) is helpful for many Jenkins >>> users. >>> >>> You can find out more about discussing details in here: >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAMM7nTGjLOg7m1uzXHxZaxTd4QFiRXjknBNOsegQ4JjTkkyH2g%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer >>> >>> Thank you. >>> Best! >>> >>> Rick (Zhao Xiaojie) >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Jenkins Developers" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAMM7nTFvfAKco%3DRxJ6jXCmwX39%2ByexfC1s8TZLwGSZ4dTLberQ%40mail.gmail.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAMM7nTFvfAKco%3DRxJ6jXCmwX39%2ByexfC1s8TZLwGSZ4dTLberQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- >> Kohsuke Kawaguchi >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Jenkins Developers" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAN4CQ4xu0s7qMZUhx1LJrjKU5BtF2tc8kogsoE3K1e9fdxD6_w%40mail.gmail.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAN4CQ4xu0s7qMZUhx1LJrjKU5BtF2tc8kogsoE3K1e9fdxD6_w%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Jenkins Developers" group. 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