There is still have a problem with the trademark. I want to use Jenkins as
the name of WeChat subscription account name. Do I still need to request
the trademark? Actually, I already met the issue. WeChat platform said I
need submit the permission of Jenkins trademark.

On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 10:26 AM arch <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yes, I prefer the service account at first. But this kind of account must
> base on a company entity. For now, the subscription account is ok.
>
> On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 9:10 PM Oleg Nenashev <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> That said, where I disagree with Oleg in the email thread linked is that
>>> I don't think it's right that Alauda is tied to this account, or any other
>>> participant for that matter... I think it's great that Xiaojie is stepping
>>> up to the plate. All the powers to him!!  IIUC, that's "subscription
>>> account" and not "service account."
>>
>>
>> My suggestion was based on Rick's preference towards a "service account"
>> in the thread.
>> Personally I do not have any preference.
>>
>> I want to register the account as an organization. But I need an
>>> organization name and code. Oleg told me that there is not a real entity
>>> for Jenkins. I also do some homework about this. So my advice is that we
>>> register this account as an individual
>>>
>> Perfectly fine with me
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Oleg
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 6:39:37 AM UTC+3, Rick wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I totally agree with the idea that Jenkins WeChat running under the
>>> community organization. It's fair for every contributor. My dream is that
>>> let more and more people join Jenkins party. But I met some situations
>>> during the process.
>>>
>>> First, I probably must use a personal email to register. I need to
>>> receive a verification code to complete the form. But the contact email
>>> could be [email protected].
>>>
>>> Second, the subscription account may be the best solution. There are
>>> five types of WeChat Account Entity. They are government, media, company,
>>> individual and other organizations. I want to register the account as an
>>> organization. But I need an organization name and code. Oleg told me that
>>> there is not a real entity for Jenkins. I also do some homework about this.
>>> So my advice is that we register this account as an individual.  More
>>> detail page is here
>>> https://mp.weixin.qq.com/acct/contractorpage?action=showreg&step=3&lang=zh_CN
>>> .
>>>
>>> It’s really great to get your support. I want to take the initiative.
>>> And I think the Chinese Localization SIG team members are happy to help the
>>> Jenkins WeChat. We have a regular video meeting. Every contributor could
>>> get the meeting time in the calendar https://jenkins.io/event-calendar/.
>>> This’s open for everyone.
>>>
>>> BTW, if there is no other concerns or questions. Once you think ok with
>>> my solution and advice, then I will begin my job.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Rick (Zhao Xiaojie)
>>>
>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 3:22 AM Kohsuke Kawaguchi <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>> I'm really excited with the prospect of Jenkins project getting WeChat
>>>> presence. I've been to China a few times myself, I have my own WeChat
>>>> account, and I know how big and ubiquitous this is over there.
>>>>
>>>> That said, where I disagree with Oleg in the email thread linked is
>>>> that I don't think it's right that Alauda is tied to this account, or any
>>>> other participant for that matter. The idea of this WeChat account is for
>>>> it to be the "official" Jenkins account on WeChat. Trademark sublicensing
>>>> request is to allow the requester to use the name in question for their
>>>> purposes outside official community activity.
>>>>
>>>> From the community's perspective, where this manifests as a question is
>>>> how to share the access to this account with others. For example, what if
>>>> Alauda moves on and stops engaging the Jenkins community? What if it gets
>>>> acquired? I'm not assuming any malice or meaning to distrust anybody here,
>>>> but it's a part of the basic safe guards for shared community assets. This
>>>> asset is to be controlled by the community, not by Alauda --- I think
>>>> everyone agrees on that here, but let's be very clear about that!
>>>>
>>>> I think the right thing to do is to setup an account that does not
>>>> require any company, Alauda or not, to proxy this. Then provided that this
>>>> is reasonably easily possible, this account should be tied and owned by the
>>>> email address of some community team, say infra team or Chinese
>>>> Localization SIG. Then when it comes to the actual operation of this, I
>>>> think it's great that Xiaojie is stepping up to the plate. All the powers
>>>> to him!!  IIUC, that's "subscription account" and not "service account."
>>>>
>>>> None of this should involve trademark sublicensing, because this IS the
>>>> official community effort whose authority is chained to the existing
>>>> governance structure.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 12:22 AM arch <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On behalf on Alauda, I'd like to request the permission to use
>>>>> the following name that uses 'Jenkins' in it: "Jenkins WeChat Account".
>>>>>
>>>>> WeChat is a very popular app in China. Most of the people have a
>>>>> WeChat account in here. So I thought it's a great place to help grow the
>>>>> Jenkins Community. We will post some events like JAM on it. And some
>>>>> articles (original or translated from jenkins.io) is helpful for many
>>>>> Jenkins users.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can find out more about discussing details in here:
>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAMM7nTGjLOg7m1uzXHxZaxTd4QFiRXjknBNOsegQ4JjTkkyH2g%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>> Best!
>>>>>
>>>>> Rick (Zhao Xiaojie)
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