I would expect a confirmation letter. And It's better to record this in wiki.
On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 6:33 PM Oleg Nenashev <[email protected]> wrote: > WeChat platform said I need submit the permission of Jenkins trademark. >> > > Then it would be better to get approval for it tomorrow. It is already in > the agenda for the Governance meeting, so I do not expect it to be a > problem to get approved. > What is the form of approval you need to get? Would a link to > https://wiki.jenkins.io/display/JENKINS/Approved+Trademark+Usage do the > job? Or do you need a kind of confirmation letter? > > BR, Oleg > > > > On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 10:11 AM arch <[email protected]> wrote: > >> There is still have a problem with the trademark. I want to use Jenkins >> as the name of WeChat subscription account name. Do I still need to request >> the trademark? Actually, I already met the issue. WeChat platform said I >> need submit the permission of Jenkins trademark. >> >> On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 10:26 AM arch <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Yes, I prefer the service account at first. But this kind of account >>> must base on a company entity. For now, the subscription account is ok. >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 9:10 PM Oleg Nenashev <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> That said, where I disagree with Oleg in the email thread linked is >>>>> that I don't think it's right that Alauda is tied to this account, or any >>>>> other participant for that matter... I think it's great that Xiaojie is >>>>> stepping up to the plate. All the powers to him!! IIUC, that's >>>>> "subscription account" and not "service account." >>>> >>>> >>>> My suggestion was based on Rick's preference towards a "service >>>> account" in the thread. >>>> Personally I do not have any preference. >>>> >>>> I want to register the account as an organization. But I need an >>>>> organization name and code. Oleg told me that there is not a real entity >>>>> for Jenkins. I also do some homework about this. So my advice is that we >>>>> register this account as an individual >>>>> >>>> Perfectly fine with me >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> Oleg >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 6:39:37 AM UTC+3, Rick wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I totally agree with the idea that Jenkins WeChat running under the >>>>> community organization. It's fair for every contributor. My dream is that >>>>> let more and more people join Jenkins party. But I met some situations >>>>> during the process. >>>>> >>>>> First, I probably must use a personal email to register. I need to >>>>> receive a verification code to complete the form. But the contact email >>>>> could be [email protected]. >>>>> >>>>> Second, the subscription account may be the best solution. There are >>>>> five types of WeChat Account Entity. They are government, media, company, >>>>> individual and other organizations. I want to register the account as an >>>>> organization. But I need an organization name and code. Oleg told me that >>>>> there is not a real entity for Jenkins. I also do some homework about >>>>> this. >>>>> So my advice is that we register this account as an individual. More >>>>> detail page is here >>>>> https://mp.weixin.qq.com/acct/contractorpage?action=showreg&step=3&lang=zh_CN >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> It’s really great to get your support. I want to take the initiative. >>>>> And I think the Chinese Localization SIG team members are happy to help >>>>> the >>>>> Jenkins WeChat. We have a regular video meeting. Every contributor could >>>>> get the meeting time in the calendar >>>>> https://jenkins.io/event-calendar/. This’s open for everyone. >>>>> >>>>> BTW, if there is no other concerns or questions. Once you think ok >>>>> with my solution and advice, then I will begin my job. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> >>>>> Rick (Zhao Xiaojie) >>>>> >>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 3:22 AM Kohsuke Kawaguchi <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>> I'm really excited with the prospect of Jenkins project getting WeChat >>>>>> presence. I've been to China a few times myself, I have my own WeChat >>>>>> account, and I know how big and ubiquitous this is over there. >>>>>> >>>>>> That said, where I disagree with Oleg in the email thread linked is >>>>>> that I don't think it's right that Alauda is tied to this account, or any >>>>>> other participant for that matter. The idea of this WeChat account is for >>>>>> it to be the "official" Jenkins account on WeChat. Trademark sublicensing >>>>>> request is to allow the requester to use the name in question for their >>>>>> purposes outside official community activity. >>>>>> >>>>>> From the community's perspective, where this manifests as a question >>>>>> is how to share the access to this account with others. For example, what >>>>>> if Alauda moves on and stops engaging the Jenkins community? What if it >>>>>> gets acquired? I'm not assuming any malice or meaning to distrust anybody >>>>>> here, but it's a part of the basic safe guards for shared community >>>>>> assets. >>>>>> This asset is to be controlled by the community, not by Alauda --- I >>>>>> think >>>>>> everyone agrees on that here, but let's be very clear about that! >>>>>> >>>>>> I think the right thing to do is to setup an account that does not >>>>>> require any company, Alauda or not, to proxy this. Then provided that >>>>>> this >>>>>> is reasonably easily possible, this account should be tied and owned by >>>>>> the >>>>>> email address of some community team, say infra team or Chinese >>>>>> Localization SIG. Then when it comes to the actual operation of this, I >>>>>> think it's great that Xiaojie is stepping up to the plate. All the powers >>>>>> to him!! IIUC, that's "subscription account" and not "service account." >>>>>> >>>>>> None of this should involve trademark sublicensing, because this IS >>>>>> the official community effort whose authority is chained to the existing >>>>>> governance structure. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 12:22 AM arch <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On behalf on Alauda, I'd like to request the permission to use >>>>>>> the following name that uses 'Jenkins' in it: "Jenkins WeChat Account". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> WeChat is a very popular app in China. Most of the people have a >>>>>>> WeChat account in here. So I thought it's a great place to help grow the >>>>>>> Jenkins Community. We will post some events like JAM on it. And some >>>>>>> articles (original or translated from jenkins.io) is helpful for >>>>>>> many Jenkins users. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find out more about discussing details in here: >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAMM7nTGjLOg7m1uzXHxZaxTd4QFiRXjknBNOsegQ4JjTkkyH2g%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>> Best! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rick (Zhao Xiaojie) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "Jenkins Developers" group. >>>>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAMM7nTFvfAKco%3DRxJ6jXCmwX39%2ByexfC1s8TZLwGSZ4dTLberQ%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAMM7nTFvfAKco%3DRxJ6jXCmwX39%2ByexfC1s8TZLwGSZ4dTLberQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Kohsuke Kawaguchi >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "Jenkins Developers" group. >>>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAN4CQ4xu0s7qMZUhx1LJrjKU5BtF2tc8kogsoE3K1e9fdxD6_w%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAN4CQ4xu0s7qMZUhx1LJrjKU5BtF2tc8kogsoE3K1e9fdxD6_w%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Jenkins Developers" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/9fc4a631-95d6-46cc-8567-3a6e8709595e%40googlegroups.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/9fc4a631-95d6-46cc-8567-3a6e8709595e%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups "Jenkins Developers" group. >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/jenkinsci-dev/UveOvVO-gwQ/unsubscribe. >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAMM7nTFa0vmONtxygeDvmE3cr7wZiK3sEAsH4bbpriCLvbGNoQ%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAMM7nTFa0vmONtxygeDvmE3cr7wZiK3sEAsH4bbpriCLvbGNoQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . > > >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Jenkins Developers" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAPfivLDLaYZU9%2BGA%2BCaSZOZRDgGiExd2ZoQsYSOAiANYkv15Bg%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAPfivLDLaYZU9%2BGA%2BCaSZOZRDgGiExd2ZoQsYSOAiANYkv15Bg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Jenkins Developers" group. 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