> > WeChat platform said I need submit the permission of Jenkins trademark. >
Then it would be better to get approval for it tomorrow. It is already in the agenda for the Governance meeting, so I do not expect it to be a problem to get approved. What is the form of approval you need to get? Would a link to https://wiki.jenkins.io/display/JENKINS/Approved+Trademark+Usage do the job? Or do you need a kind of confirmation letter? BR, Oleg On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 10:11 AM arch <[email protected]> wrote: > There is still have a problem with the trademark. I want to use Jenkins as > the name of WeChat subscription account name. Do I still need to request > the trademark? Actually, I already met the issue. WeChat platform said I > need submit the permission of Jenkins trademark. > > On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 10:26 AM arch <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Yes, I prefer the service account at first. But this kind of account must >> base on a company entity. For now, the subscription account is ok. >> >> On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 9:10 PM Oleg Nenashev <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> That said, where I disagree with Oleg in the email thread linked is that >>>> I don't think it's right that Alauda is tied to this account, or any other >>>> participant for that matter... I think it's great that Xiaojie is stepping >>>> up to the plate. All the powers to him!! IIUC, that's "subscription >>>> account" and not "service account." >>> >>> >>> My suggestion was based on Rick's preference towards a "service account" >>> in the thread. >>> Personally I do not have any preference. >>> >>> I want to register the account as an organization. But I need an >>>> organization name and code. Oleg told me that there is not a real entity >>>> for Jenkins. I also do some homework about this. So my advice is that we >>>> register this account as an individual >>>> >>> Perfectly fine with me >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Oleg >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 6:39:37 AM UTC+3, Rick wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I totally agree with the idea that Jenkins WeChat running under the >>>> community organization. It's fair for every contributor. My dream is that >>>> let more and more people join Jenkins party. But I met some situations >>>> during the process. >>>> >>>> First, I probably must use a personal email to register. I need to >>>> receive a verification code to complete the form. But the contact email >>>> could be [email protected]. >>>> >>>> Second, the subscription account may be the best solution. There are >>>> five types of WeChat Account Entity. They are government, media, company, >>>> individual and other organizations. I want to register the account as an >>>> organization. But I need an organization name and code. Oleg told me that >>>> there is not a real entity for Jenkins. I also do some homework about this. >>>> So my advice is that we register this account as an individual. More >>>> detail page is here >>>> https://mp.weixin.qq.com/acct/contractorpage?action=showreg&step=3&lang=zh_CN >>>> . >>>> >>>> It’s really great to get your support. I want to take the initiative. >>>> And I think the Chinese Localization SIG team members are happy to help the >>>> Jenkins WeChat. We have a regular video meeting. Every contributor could >>>> get the meeting time in the calendar https://jenkins.io/event-calendar/. >>>> This’s open for everyone. >>>> >>>> BTW, if there is no other concerns or questions. Once you think ok with >>>> my solution and advice, then I will begin my job. >>>> >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Rick (Zhao Xiaojie) >>>> >>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 3:22 AM Kohsuke Kawaguchi <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>> I'm really excited with the prospect of Jenkins project getting WeChat >>>>> presence. I've been to China a few times myself, I have my own WeChat >>>>> account, and I know how big and ubiquitous this is over there. >>>>> >>>>> That said, where I disagree with Oleg in the email thread linked is >>>>> that I don't think it's right that Alauda is tied to this account, or any >>>>> other participant for that matter. The idea of this WeChat account is for >>>>> it to be the "official" Jenkins account on WeChat. Trademark sublicensing >>>>> request is to allow the requester to use the name in question for their >>>>> purposes outside official community activity. >>>>> >>>>> From the community's perspective, where this manifests as a question >>>>> is how to share the access to this account with others. For example, what >>>>> if Alauda moves on and stops engaging the Jenkins community? What if it >>>>> gets acquired? I'm not assuming any malice or meaning to distrust anybody >>>>> here, but it's a part of the basic safe guards for shared community >>>>> assets. >>>>> This asset is to be controlled by the community, not by Alauda --- I think >>>>> everyone agrees on that here, but let's be very clear about that! >>>>> >>>>> I think the right thing to do is to setup an account that does not >>>>> require any company, Alauda or not, to proxy this. Then provided that this >>>>> is reasonably easily possible, this account should be tied and owned by >>>>> the >>>>> email address of some community team, say infra team or Chinese >>>>> Localization SIG. Then when it comes to the actual operation of this, I >>>>> think it's great that Xiaojie is stepping up to the plate. All the powers >>>>> to him!! IIUC, that's "subscription account" and not "service account." >>>>> >>>>> None of this should involve trademark sublicensing, because this IS >>>>> the official community effort whose authority is chained to the existing >>>>> governance structure. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 12:22 AM arch <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On behalf on Alauda, I'd like to request the permission to use >>>>>> the following name that uses 'Jenkins' in it: "Jenkins WeChat Account". >>>>>> >>>>>> WeChat is a very popular app in China. Most of the people have a >>>>>> WeChat account in here. So I thought it's a great place to help grow the >>>>>> Jenkins Community. We will post some events like JAM on it. And some >>>>>> articles (original or translated from jenkins.io) is helpful for >>>>>> many Jenkins users. >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find out more about discussing details in here: >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAMM7nTGjLOg7m1uzXHxZaxTd4QFiRXjknBNOsegQ4JjTkkyH2g%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>> Best! >>>>>> >>>>>> Rick (Zhao Xiaojie) >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "Jenkins Developers" group. >>>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAMM7nTFvfAKco%3DRxJ6jXCmwX39%2ByexfC1s8TZLwGSZ4dTLberQ%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAMM7nTFvfAKco%3DRxJ6jXCmwX39%2ByexfC1s8TZLwGSZ4dTLberQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Kohsuke Kawaguchi >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Jenkins Developers" group. >>>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> >>>> >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAN4CQ4xu0s7qMZUhx1LJrjKU5BtF2tc8kogsoE3K1e9fdxD6_w%40mail.gmail.com >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAN4CQ4xu0s7qMZUhx1LJrjKU5BtF2tc8kogsoE3K1e9fdxD6_w%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Jenkins Developers" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/9fc4a631-95d6-46cc-8567-3a6e8709595e%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/9fc4a631-95d6-46cc-8567-3a6e8709595e%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "Jenkins Developers" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/jenkinsci-dev/UveOvVO-gwQ/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAMM7nTFa0vmONtxygeDvmE3cr7wZiK3sEAsH4bbpriCLvbGNoQ%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAMM7nTFa0vmONtxygeDvmE3cr7wZiK3sEAsH4bbpriCLvbGNoQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Jenkins Developers" group. 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