Hi,

I totally agree with the idea that Jenkins WeChat running under the
community organization. It's fair for every contributor. My dream is that
let more and more people join Jenkins party. But I met some situations
during the process.

First, I probably must use a personal email to register. I need to receive
a verification code to complete the form. But the contact email could be
[email protected].

Second, the subscription account may be the best solution. There are five
types of WeChat Account Entity. They are government, media, company,
individual and other organizations. I want to register the account as an
organization. But I need an organization name and code. Oleg told me that
there is not a real entity for Jenkins. I also do some homework about this.
So my advice is that we register this account as an individual.  More
detail page is here
https://mp.weixin.qq.com/acct/contractorpage?action=showreg&step=3&lang=zh_CN
.

It’s really great to get your support. I want to take the initiative. And I
think the Chinese Localization SIG team members are happy to help the
Jenkins WeChat. We have a regular video meeting. Every contributor could
get the meeting time in the calendar https://jenkins.io/event-calendar/.
This’s open for everyone.

BTW, if there is no other concerns or questions. Once you think ok with my
solution and advice, then I will begin my job.


Best,

Rick (Zhao Xiaojie)
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 3:22 AM Kohsuke Kawaguchi <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'm really excited with the prospect of Jenkins project getting WeChat
> presence. I've been to China a few times myself, I have my own WeChat
> account, and I know how big and ubiquitous this is over there.
>
> That said, where I disagree with Oleg in the email thread linked is that I
> don't think it's right that Alauda is tied to this account, or any other
> participant for that matter. The idea of this WeChat account is for it to
> be the "official" Jenkins account on WeChat. Trademark sublicensing request
> is to allow the requester to use the name in question for their purposes
> outside official community activity.
>
> From the community's perspective, where this manifests as a question is
> how to share the access to this account with others. For example, what if
> Alauda moves on and stops engaging the Jenkins community? What if it gets
> acquired? I'm not assuming any malice or meaning to distrust anybody here,
> but it's a part of the basic safe guards for shared community assets. This
> asset is to be controlled by the community, not by Alauda --- I think
> everyone agrees on that here, but let's be very clear about that!
>
> I think the right thing to do is to setup an account that does not require
> any company, Alauda or not, to proxy this. Then provided that this is
> reasonably easily possible, this account should be tied and owned by the
> email address of some community team, say infra team or Chinese
> Localization SIG. Then when it comes to the actual operation of this, I
> think it's great that Xiaojie is stepping up to the plate. All the powers
> to him!!  IIUC, that's "subscription account" and not "service account."
>
> None of this should involve trademark sublicensing, because this IS the
> official community effort whose authority is chained to the existing
> governance structure.
>
> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 12:22 AM arch <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On behalf on Alauda, I'd like to request the permission to use
>> the following name that uses 'Jenkins' in it: "Jenkins WeChat Account".
>>
>> WeChat is a very popular app in China. Most of the people have a WeChat
>> account in here. So I thought it's a great place to help grow the Jenkins
>> Community. We will post some events like JAM on it. And some articles
>> (original or translated from jenkins.io) is helpful for many Jenkins
>> users.
>>
>> You can find out more about discussing details in here:
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAMM7nTGjLOg7m1uzXHxZaxTd4QFiRXjknBNOsegQ4JjTkkyH2g%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer
>>
>> Thank you.
>> Best!
>>
>> Rick (Zhao Xiaojie)
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