El Dimarts, 30 de desembre de 2014, a les 20:14:40, Boudewijn Rempt va 
escriure:
> On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > Because as i said, the world has a limited amount of money and so does the
> > KDE eV.
> > 
> > When project X asks money for itself instead of asking money for KDE eV,
> > it's probable that if person Y donates, then person Y may not donate to
> > general KDE eV fund raisers since he'll think (i already donated) so
> > project X gets a donation and not the KDE eV.
> > 
> > Then when project X does a sprint he is asking for funds that come from
> > the
> > KDE eV even if by running a "specialized fundraiser" it maybe made those
> > funds to be smaller.
> 
> That's a logical error. It's just not true and it's certainly not
> 'provable'.

Yeah, obviously i don't have proof, neither do you. But do you really say 
there's noone in the world that go by the rationale i mentioned?

> In the first place, there's no 'limited amount of money in the world' --
> not since the first country went off the gold standard in any case.

Let's not go there :)

> There's plenty of money, we only have to find others than companies than
> Nokia and Intel to give it to us.
> 
> So, in the second place, projects like GCompris and Krita actually do that
> and reach beyond the usual reach of KDE as a free software umbrella
> organization and bring in more money. It expands the pool from which we
> fish, and may actually introduce new people to KDE...
> 
> This needs to be very clear, or otherwise all discussion is useless: a KDE
> project doing a fund raiser does not steal money from KDE e.V.

Obviously it does not steal money from our bank.

Again, are you saying that there's noone in the world that will think "I 
already donated to this Okular fundraiser this year so i am not going to 
donate to the general KDE fundraiser"?

Cheers,
  Albert

> If we as as community truly believes it does, it's time to add a rider to
> the KDE manifesto forbidding KDE projects from doing fund-raising (and, I
> guess, commercial involvement, since it's the same thing).
> 
> 
> 
> Boudewijn
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