On 3/28/2007 12:39 PM, Christian Seberino wrote:

Tell me what you think of the original link.  I'd be curious to hear your
thoughts on it.

http://bobsiegel.net/skeptics.html
(then select "Bible" link and last question of the FAQ)

I read some of it. He's applying a standard/viewpoint/ruleset for relationships that I don't subscribe to and don't live by.

This is an example of how having these discussions isn't going anywhere. . I can see where he's going and stopped reading where our assumptions diverge. Here's an example of a place I differ:

“For how long? Are you committed for life?
No

Do you love her unconditionally?
No

Or do you only love her until someone more attractive comes along?
That depends on the extent of our love for each other. If it wanes enough, others will start to look attractive to each of us.

Until you grow tired of her or until she displays some weakness that you don’t want to live with? Yes, but I'd change "weakness" to "characteristic". And the same applies to her.

Are you willing to someday leave her, this woman with whom you became so intimate, this person who made herself so vulnerable to you as she expressed her sexuality? Yes each of us would given some circumstances. No one has asked how likely that might be. Each of us at this point would each say "Very unlikely." But I said the same thing with my first wife; hence I also say "You never know."

Could you someday desert her and devastate her by breaking her heart?”
No. (Here's another "when did you stop beating your wife" statement). Of course, when people break up it can be devastating and hezrtbreaking. If it's going to be you do your best to avoid it. What he's suggesting aren't the conditions under which we'd break up.

Karl

P.S. A problem with discussions like this is that some people's moral standards don't accept as OK widely divergent moral standards between people. Differences acceptable to one can't be tolerated by others. It's the disparity in tolerance that's the problem.


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