I'll have to assess what I think of all this today. I would be grateful to the steers of kplug if they could express opinions to guide me (and perhaps the other kpluggers on the SDCS board).
In principle I feel: 1. SDMUG should be encouraged to follow their best interests 2. If SDCS is going to end up being a Kplug-only show, we may want to reassess 3. I suspect that SDMUG would be making a tactical error to pull out (i.e., that SDCS still provides them with value), but they may have wrongs or annoyances that need correcting. 4. Even if they pull out, kplug shouldn't do anything percipitous. On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 11:17:52PM -0700, John H. Robinson, IV wrote: > Carl Lowenstein wrote: > > As a new and unanointed member of the SDCS board, I just got a copy of > > the minutes of the SDMUG board, from their meeting earlier this > > evening. > > > > Looks like they SDMUG are getting ready to secede from SDCS. > > Attached is a copy of the minutes. > > I'm a bit confused by the minutes. Comments interspersed. > I guess the biggest impact on us is that there will be board vacancies > to fill. Presumably, we could find members to fill said vacancies. > > > 20 April 2005 > > SDMUG Board Meeting - Special Meeting > > Round Table Pizza, University City > > > > Present: Dennis Baros, Sarah Baros, Adam Christianson, Mike Ivers, > > Rory Ivers, Daly Jessup, Claude Mathis. Mac McAvenia, Juan Salazar > > > > The meeting was called to order at 6:30 P.M. > > > > Claude will send an email to the SDMUG membership tomorrow about the > > vote to be taken about separating. This will give 13 or 14 days' > > notice. We will ask the membership to vote on whether to break away > > from SDCS. Discussion about how to present the idea. It was concluded > > that Claude will speak alone, and will tell them that we as > > individual members (the board) have formed a new corporation and that > > if they choose to break away the corporation is there to provide > > continuity (and, as a corollary, if they don't so vote, they will > > need to find a new board). > > So the SDMUG leadership is saying to the SDMUG populace: follow us, or > lose your (current) board? > > > A week from tonight, we need to let the SDCS board members know that > > they will need to find other board members because we are breaking > > away. We should go to the SIG leaders first. One of their new board > > members has not officially accepted his position, and that must be > > taken care of. Sarah and Adam (and possibly others) on the current > > SDCS board offered to continue to serve until they have turned over > > their responsibilities. > > When they say SIG leaders, do they mean other SDCS SIGs, or the SIGS of > SDMUG? This is confusing. It also sounds like a done deal: SDMUG will > break away. The vote is merely a formality. > > > John Alvarado must change the phone number for SDCS and cancel the > > phone that is now in use, as it is running up bills to no benefit to > > the group. > > Doesn't SDMUG get reimbursed for said expense? If not, it probably > should have. > > > We will plan our first meeting of the new SDCS for June. We can get > > two copies of Tiger from the Apple Store as prizes. We want to have a > > big raffle and give away mugs in celebration of the start of the new > > group. Perhaps iPod shuffles as well. > > Again, more sounds of done-dealness. > > > To make the vote, we will need a quorum. Per the SDCS bylaws: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ARTICLE VIII. MEETINGS > > > > Section A. Annual Meeting > > > > The annual meeting of the members of SDMUG shall be the October > > general meeting of each year. > > > > Section B. General Meetings > > > > 1. General meetings shall be held at such time and place as set > > by the Board. > > 2. Notice of general meetings shall be made by publication of > > time and place of > > each meeting in the SDMUG newsletter, and any additional method > > determined appropriate by the Board. > > > > Section C. Quorums > > > > A quorum shall be the lesser 10% percent of the total SDMUG membership > ^^^^^^^^^^^ > > or 50 members. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > So will need to know the membership number if we have fewer than 50 > > members present, so we can calculate the 20%. Daly is to send SDMUG > ^^^ > > bylaws to all board members. > > Sounds like they are confused about the quorum requirements, too. > > > The new address of the SDMUG is: 13200 Kirkham Way, Suite 108, > > Poway, CA 92064 > > > > Mac mentioned that he needs power adapters for clamshell iBooks. > > > > Juan moved that we adjourn. Daly seconded the motion. > > > > 7:20 PM - There being no further business to discuss the meeting was > > adjourned. > > > > Respectfully submitted, > > > > > > Daly Jessup > > Secretary, Board of Directors > > San Diego Macintosh User Group > -- > [email protected] > http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer -- Lan Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Guy, SCM Specialist 858-354-0616 -- [email protected] http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
