James G. Sack (jim) wrote:
> Neil Schneider wrote:
>> James G. Sack (jim) wrote:
>>
>>> <huh?> I had lots of checkmarks in
>>> http://www.kernel-panic.org/manage
>>> click on "wiki" then "recycle_bin (deleted wiki pages")
>>> (that displays "ATFolder at /wiki/recycle_bin"
>>> click on "security" tab
>>> and see 100 lines with
>>> almost all having acquire and manager checked
>>> a couple lines have no acquire-check
>>> a few have an anon check, a few have an owner check
>>> (on my home system, some had member checked)
>>
>> I should have been more explicit. I didn't see anything you
>> described
>> to uncheck. Every line is checked in Acquire and Manager, nothing
>> else. What do they mean?
>
> Puzzle: on page "ATFolder at /wiki/recycle_bin"
> arrived at as above, I see a anon-check on the 26th line down (there
> are
> headers every 10 lines on my display). This permission line is titled
> "Access contents information". And so on for lines 142 and 177 (maybe
> --
> I get dizzy counting).
Well we must be seeing different views. I checked again, no check for
Anonymous on any line. Just checked again.
>>
>>> Hmmph, I'm getting confused. I have seen somewhere
>>> "Never click around in the ZMI security screens, use the
>>> workflow!"
>>> but I can't say I understand workflow, and don't get any intuition
>>> from
>>> poking around in ZMI.
>>
>> Nor do I.
>>
>>> First look seems to that I did manage to hide recycle_bin on my
>>> home
>>> system via security checkmarks -- but I haven't played too much
>>> subsequently. Besides, I'm running a newer system. In any case, I'm
>>> wary
>>> of making changes without knowing what each change really does,
>>> 'cause
>>> that makes it hard to correctly undo a screwup -- especially after
>>> some
>>> time passes.
>>
>> That explains why I'm seeing things differently on SparKPLUG. Like
>> your description of SmartFolders.
>
> Well I thought I was describing KP.
Well either you're describing your own machine, that is different, or
we're seeing different views of KP.
>>From contents, jobs, criteria,
> in the "Add New Search Criteria" fieldset, the "Field name" dropdown
> box
> contains a bunch of selection possibilities, including ex. date. The
> "Criteria type" dropdown can be set (say) to relative-date. Then after
> clicking add, you get to specify the actual condition (say) more than
> now (or other things like more than 2 days in the future).
I found those filters. I didn't use a date parameter to configure my
filters, but I looked at some others and saw that date was a filter
criteria for the SmartFolder for Events, so old events wouldn't be
shown.
>>
>>> This is where zope/plone kinda dampens my enthusiasm.
>>>
>>
>> And mine.
>>
>
> I'm not saying it's drop-dead discouraging nor even _really-ugh-bad_
> --
> it's just hard to gain intuition on it. It may not be perfect, or
> perfectly documented, but at least there is a community .. and there's
> always the source, eh?
Neither am I. It just gets a little frustrating when you want to do
something you think is simple, and will simplify the management of the
site, and you can't get there from here.
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