Hi all, I have hereby closed the more than four years old BetaWikiversity merging proposal on procedural grounds. As I wrote there < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Move_Beta_Wikiversity_to_Incubator> a new one can be opened that is a proper proposal and more well-prepared, since the proposal itself remains valid and has wide support.
Regards, Robin 2017-07-01 8:24 GMT+02:00 Gerard Meijssen <[email protected]>: > Hoi, > If the WMF is of the opinion that the Language committee is relevant > separate from its role as the gatekeeper for new languages and projects, it > would help when the name changes necessary to comply fully with standards > is honoured. The language committee is unanimous in its longstanding wish > for this to happen. > > Another aspect of the deletion etc of projects is that the feasibility of > merging has never been technically assessed as far as I am aware, There is > a chance for templates existing in projects to interfere with existing > stuff in the Incubator. It is also not clear what happens to the interwiki > links. A long held wish is that Incubator is supported for its existing > languages in Wikidata. My personal argument is that the links to all kinds > of other statements represent links and information that could be in the > stub for the article they are writing. > > Many of the arguments about the deletion of projects like Moldovan have a > long history. I do understand why the Language committee could play a role > because it has always been fairly separate from what community members have > for an opinion. When other members of the LC chime in, we may do something. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 1 July 2017 at 05:13, Samuel Klein <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Gerard Meijssen < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hoi, >>> To be honest, it is not the task of the language committee to kill of >>> projects. At best we may "recommend". At that we strongly urge the >>> Wikimedia Foundation to rename a few projects that are incorrectly named. >>> This does not happen as it does not have the needed priority. >>> >> >> From the perspective of the WMF and the community, at present, a LangCom >> recommendation is highly relevant, and where one exists it is AFAIK >> followed. >> >> Moreover, there is no other forum for proposing and discussing such >> closures. >> >> I too encourage the committee to strongly urge closure+migration of Beta >> Wikiversity, and deletion+archival-migration? of Moldovan WP/Wikt. >> >> If LangCom does not *wish* to process closure requests, it's absolutely >> up to you to remove that from the LangCom charter and push back to the >> community at large. But unless some other group takes up the role, that >> limits the committee's ability to correct earlier decisions that didn't >> work out. >> >> SJ >> >> >> Also, there are always people who one way or another want the language >>> committee to do whatever. That is fine but it does not mean that the >>> language committee can do much more than its remit. >>> Thanks, >>> GerardM >>> >>> On 30 June 2017 at 18:38, Steven White <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> The community is getting impatient that LangCom is leaving so many >>>> items in limbo, especially the Beta Wikiversity proposal. (See >>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Closing_projects_policy >>>> #This_is_not_working.) That proposal passed its fourth anniversary in >>>> the last week! In April, you discussed this question, and seemed on the >>>> verge of approving the closure—but then the discussion was stopped, and no >>>> action was taken. >>>> >>>> >>>> There are currently four proposals that have been open for two years or >>>> longer, and another two that have been open for over a year. I strongly >>>> urge you to take action at least on those, lest the community step in and >>>> make its own decisions. As a reminder these are: >>>> >>>> >>>> - Move Beta Wikiversity to Incubator >>>> - Deletion of Moldovan WIkipedia and Wiktionary (two >>>> separate proposals) (already closed and locked) >>>> - Deletion of Marshallese projects (already closed and locked) >>>> - Closure of Limburgish and Bosnian Wikibooks (two proposals) >>>> >>>> >>>> I'd venture to say that there is no groundswell insisting on the >>>> Marshallese, Limburgish or Bosnian proposals, and you could easily close >>>> those proposals as "not done" with little fanfare. The others I cannot >>>> really comment on. >>>> >>>> Steven White (StevenJ81) >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from Outlook <http://aka.ms/weboutlook> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Langcom mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Langcom mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 >> 4266 <+1%20617-529-4266> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Langcom mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Langcom mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom > >
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