I also propose to reject < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_Albanian_Wikinews> as inactivity is not a valid reason etc., as mentioned by most commenters on the page as well.
2017-07-02 1:10 GMT+02:00 MF-Warburg <[email protected]>: > I propose to reject <https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Deletion_of_Marshallese_Wikipedia_and_ > Wiktionary>, <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_ > projects/Deletion_of_Afar_Wikipedia,_Wikibooks_and_Wiktionary>, < > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_ > projects/Deletion_of_Hiri_Motu_Wikipedia> and <https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Deletion_of_Venda_Wikipedia_2>. The > only reason given for deleting is that these projects are unlikely to be > reopened. Not much value in doing that was shown, and per > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T168764#3378717 and the page linked > from there it seems that such a deletion would only cause unnecessary > technical problems, especially if by chance one of them should be reopened. > > 2017-07-02 0:32 GMT+02:00 Robin Pepermans <[email protected]>: > >> Hi all, >> >> I have hereby closed the more than four years old BetaWikiversity merging >> proposal on procedural grounds. As I wrote there < >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_proje >> cts/Move_Beta_Wikiversity_to_Incubator> a new one can be opened that is >> a proper proposal and more well-prepared, since the proposal itself remains >> valid and has wide support. >> >> Regards, >> Robin >> >> >> 2017-07-01 8:24 GMT+02:00 Gerard Meijssen <[email protected]>: >> >>> Hoi, >>> If the WMF is of the opinion that the Language committee is relevant >>> separate from its role as the gatekeeper for new languages and projects, it >>> would help when the name changes necessary to comply fully with standards >>> is honoured. The language committee is unanimous in its longstanding wish >>> for this to happen. >>> >>> Another aspect of the deletion etc of projects is that the feasibility >>> of merging has never been technically assessed as far as I am aware, There >>> is a chance for templates existing in projects to interfere with existing >>> stuff in the Incubator. It is also not clear what happens to the interwiki >>> links. A long held wish is that Incubator is supported for its existing >>> languages in Wikidata. My personal argument is that the links to all kinds >>> of other statements represent links and information that could be in the >>> stub for the article they are writing. >>> >>> Many of the arguments about the deletion of projects like Moldovan have >>> a long history. I do understand why the Language committee could play a >>> role because it has always been fairly separate from what community members >>> have for an opinion. When other members of the LC chime in, we may do >>> something. >>> Thanks, >>> GerardM >>> >>> On 1 July 2017 at 05:13, Samuel Klein <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Gerard Meijssen < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hoi, >>>>> To be honest, it is not the task of the language committee to kill of >>>>> projects. At best we may "recommend". At that we strongly urge the >>>>> Wikimedia Foundation to rename a few projects that are incorrectly named. >>>>> This does not happen as it does not have the needed priority. >>>>> >>>> >>>> From the perspective of the WMF and the community, at present, a >>>> LangCom recommendation is highly relevant, and where one exists it is AFAIK >>>> followed. >>>> >>>> Moreover, there is no other forum for proposing and discussing such >>>> closures. >>>> >>>> I too encourage the committee to strongly urge closure+migration of >>>> Beta Wikiversity, and deletion+archival-migration? of Moldovan WP/Wikt. >>>> >>>> If LangCom does not *wish* to process closure requests, it's absolutely >>>> up to you to remove that from the LangCom charter and push back to the >>>> community at large. But unless some other group takes up the role, that >>>> limits the committee's ability to correct earlier decisions that didn't >>>> work out. >>>> >>>> SJ >>>> >>>> >>>> Also, there are always people who one way or another want the language >>>>> committee to do whatever. That is fine but it does not mean that the >>>>> language committee can do much more than its remit. >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> GerardM >>>>> >>>>> On 30 June 2017 at 18:38, Steven White <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The community is getting impatient that LangCom is leaving so many >>>>>> items in limbo, especially the Beta Wikiversity proposal. (See >>>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Closing_projects_policy >>>>>> #This_is_not_working.) That proposal passed its fourth anniversary >>>>>> in the last week! In April, you discussed this question, and seemed on >>>>>> the >>>>>> verge of approving the closure—but then the discussion was stopped, and >>>>>> no >>>>>> action was taken. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> There are currently four proposals that have been open for two years >>>>>> or longer, and another two that have been open for over a year. I >>>>>> strongly >>>>>> urge you to take action at least on those, lest the community step in and >>>>>> make its own decisions. As a reminder these are: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> - Move Beta Wikiversity to Incubator >>>>>> - Deletion of Moldovan WIkipedia and Wiktionary (two >>>>>> separate proposals) (already closed and locked) >>>>>> - Deletion of Marshallese projects (already closed and locked) >>>>>> - Closure of Limburgish and Bosnian Wikibooks (two proposals) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I'd venture to say that there is no groundswell insisting on the >>>>>> Marshallese, Limburgish or Bosnian proposals, and you could easily close >>>>>> those proposals as "not done" with little fanfare. The others I cannot >>>>>> really comment on. >>>>>> >>>>>> Steven White (StevenJ81) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from Outlook <http://aka.ms/weboutlook> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Langcom mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Langcom mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 >>>> 4266 <+1%20617-529-4266> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Langcom mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Langcom mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Langcom mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom >> >> >
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