Sarah,

why doesn't Chris send an email out to the community, if he's
interested in our contributions? We are just an email away.

> They have a few engineers on staff who work on the platform...
http://www.openlaszlo.org/pipermail/laszlo-checkins/
Which work, don't see any checkins since October, besides the work on
the video components you have done. :-)

I believe it takes a bit more than a few community members
contributing from time to time to keep this platform running. The
first step would be to have a discussion, and gather people. That's
what I've suggested, to have a call and see who's interested at all.

Without a plan, people are just going to add a few contributions from
time to time, but where's the general strategy? Who's going to do QA
for these changes? What should the focus be? Add runtime specific
features? Fix bugs?

All of that would need to be discussed, and without project
responsibilities, there's not much going to happen.

Best,
Raju
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 12:20 AM, Sarah Allen <[email protected]> wrote:
> sorry -- meant to send this to everyone, but sent the response just to
> David!
>
> +1 for github -- I really like the forking feature with very nice support
> for pull-requests
>
> I ran into Chris Helgeson from Laszlo Systems the other day.  He says that
> he welcomes contributions from the community.  They have a few engineers on
> staff who work on the platform and I think there are more contributors who
> don't work for Laszlo Systems now.
>
> What's involved in switching over?
>
> Sarah
>
>
> On Dec 16, 2011, at 10:48 AM, David Greisen wrote:
>
> I'm putting my vote in for github.
>
> On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Raju Bitter
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Tucker, are you going to set up a Git repository for the OpenLaszlo
>> source code? I've just seen that you can use Git with sourceforge as
>> well:
>> http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Git
>>
>> http://sourceforge.net/p/forge/documentation/Classic%20vs%20Beta%20projects/
>> SourceForge.net provides the following features in its Git offering:
>>
>>    All 1.6.x features of git are supported.
>>    Developer (read/write) access is provided via ssh.
>>    anonymous (read-only) access are provided via git's daemon
>> protocol ("git://").
>>    Several Git clients are supported, including:
>>        The official git client (MS Windows, Mac OS X, Linux, BSD).
>>    Repositories may be viewed via web browser using the GitWeb.
>>    Existing repositories may be imported via a normal git push (since
>> git is a distributed SCM).
>>    Repository access may be granted or revoked from a developer using
>> the Project Admin interface.
>>    Repository backups and mirroring may be performed using rsync or git
>> clone.
>>    Service usage is not restricted by quotas.
>>    Multiple repositories are supported.
>>
>> But I have no experience with Git and sourceforge. As an alternative,
>> Github could be used (open source projects should be free).
>>
>> What do you think the next steps should be? I'm not willing to
>> approach Laszlo, the company has let so many opportunities pass to
>> talk to the community, that they have lost any credibility with me.
>> But I can imagine that some of you have better connections to the
>> management team.
>>
>> - Raju
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Raju Bitter
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Thanks, will do. :-)
>> >
>> > On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 12:25 AM, Ono Keiji <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> Hi Raju,
>> >>
>> >> If you will have an online meeting, let me know the time.
>> >>
>> >> - ono
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 引用 Raju Bitter <[email protected]>:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> @Tucker: Yes, would be good to use that domain for now. Don't know if
>> >>> we should use OpenLaszlo at all as a name.
>> >>>
>> >>> I haven't heard anything from Laszlo. I'd be surprised if there would
>> >>> be any official response.
>> >>>
>> >>> It seems like there is still a number of people using OpenLaszlo, and
>> >>> some more with general interest in the technology. OpenLaszlo is still
>> >>> mentioned on the IBM Websphere Commerce edition website:
>> >>> goo.gl/qT6iu
>> >>> "WebSphere Commerce features compiling OpenLaszlo applications,
>> >>> including an editor for OpenLaszlo files and a compilation process."
>> >>>
>> >>> If each of us would reach out to their OpenLaszlo network, to find out
>> >>> who'd be interested in working on or contributing to OpenLaszlo hosted
>> >>> at Github (maybe even under a new name), that might helpful. Once we
>> >>> have identified a circle of community members interested in the
>> >>> project, we could come up with an agenda for an online meeting to
>> >>> discuss the next steps. What do you think?
>> >>>
>> >>> - Raju
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 9:17 PM, David Greisen <[email protected]>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> So this thread has been going for several days. Has there been any
>> >>>> response
>> >>>> from Laszlo Systems? At what point should we start scraping the
>> >>>> listserve
>> >>>> archives and forums?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> David
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 1:37 PM, James Simister <[email protected]>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Thanks Tucker and Sarah,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Lol, I read it as OLD dev as well.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Bret
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Dec 07, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Sarah Allen <[email protected]>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Funny -- I read that as OLD dev at first glance. Ok for the interim,
>> >>>>> but
>> >>>>> we gotta work on naming if change domains... my guess is that Laszlo
>> >>>>> will
>> >>>>> appreciate the volunteer support :)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Dec 7, 2011, at 10:21 AM, P T Withington wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> > If it's of any interest, I have a domain oldev.org that I set
>> >>>>> > aside
>> >>>>> > should openlaszlo.org become non-functional. Let me know if you
>> >>>>> > want
>> >>>>> > to use
>> >>>>> > it.
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > On 2011-12-06, at 01:44, Raju Bitter wrote:
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> >> Thanks a lot Sarah, I like the more positive thread title.
>> >>>>> >> Actually
>> >>>>> >> it
>> >>>>> >> would be cool to continue OL on Github. I've created a lot of
>> >>>>> >> useful
>> >>>>> >> code in the past years, and I'd be much more happy to contribute
>> >>>>> >> the
>> >>>>> >> code to an independent project.
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> @Max: You once said that you have created a script for updating
>> >>>>> >> Github? Do you still have that somewhere?
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> Thanks,
>> >>>>> >> Raju
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Sarah Allen
>> >>>>> >> <[email protected]>
>> >>>>> >> wrote:
>> >>>>> >>> Thanks for starting this thread I'm re-naming it to be a bit
>> >>>>> >>> more
>> >>>>> >>> positive. I'd like to see it as an "organization" on github then
>> >>>>> >>> it
>> >>>>> >>> is
>> >>>>> >>> easier for a few of us to be administrators.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> >>>
>> >>>>> >>> Sarah
>> >>>>> >>>
>> >>>>> >>> On Dec 5, 2011, at 12:44 PM, Raju Bitter wrote:
>> >>>>> >>>
>> >>>>> >>>> Thanks, Tucker. It's good to know that the source is available
>> >>>>> >>>> on
>> >>>>> >>>> sourceforge, thanks for making that happen. I think Max has a
>> >>>>> >>>> script
>> >>>>> >>>> somewhere to update his Github repository:
>> >>>>> >>>> https://github.com/mcarlson/openlaszlo
>> >>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>> >>>>> From what I'm hearing there's still enough interest in the
>> >>>>> >>>>> technology
>> >>>>> >>>> to have an active community do basic maintenance work, in case
>> >>>>> >>>> Laszlo
>> >>>>> >>>> is not interested in or capable of doing that in the future.
>> >>>>> >>>> Maybe
>> >>>>> >>>> it's time to reach out to the active community members to see
>> >>>>> >>>> if
>> >>>>> >>>> there's enough momentum to continue development on either
>> >>>>> >>>> sourceforge
>> >>>>> >>>> or Github.
>> >>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>> >>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 4:00 PM, P T Withington <[email protected]>
>> >>>>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>> >>>>> It worries me to At least there is a mirror of the sources on
>> >>>>> >>>>> sourceforge. Sorry I didn't get one on github.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 5, 2011, at 2:04, Raju Bitter
>> >>>>> >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> >>>>>> It seems that Laszlo finally stopped working on OpenLaszlo.
>> >>>>> >>>>>> There
>> >>>>> >>>>>> haven't been any checkins to the platform since October 21st
>> >>>>> >>>>>> 2011.
>> >>>>> >>>>>> And
>> >>>>> >>>>>> there haven't been any nightly builds since the same day.
>> >>>>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> >>>>>> Based on the mailing list activity in the past months, the
>> >>>>> >>>>>> team
>> >>>>> >>>>>> size
>> >>>>> >>>>>> must be down to 1-2 people, probably not working full-time on
>> >>>>> >>>>>> the
>> >>>>> >>>>>> project - if at all. As a long time supporter, contributor,
>> >>>>> >>>>>> committer
>> >>>>> >>>>>> I'd appreciate an update on the status of the project.
>> >>>>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> >>>>>> I don't care about a specific release date for 5.0. But does
>> >>>>> >>>>>> that
>> >>>>> >>>>>> mean
>> >>>>> >>>>>> that Laszlo discontinues OpenLaszlo?
>> >>>>> >>>
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> ------------------------------------------
>> >> Ono Keiji
>> >> [email protected]
>> >> Mizue Edogawa Tokyo JP
>> >> URL http://www.net8.co.jp
>> >> ------------------------------------------
>> >>
>>
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