I think there are still a bunch of folks who have spent years working on 
OpenLaszlo who would likely be willing to accept pull requests.  With github 
organizations, it can be a team of people.  I think the main thing that would 
make it sane is have a continuous integration server -- we would need to be 
running whatever tests that can be automated on each checkin.  I've had very 
good experience with Jenkins -- did you say you had a server you could set up 
for hosting builds?

Thanks!
Sarah

On Dec 21, 2011, at 1:06 AM, [email protected] wrote:

> *Seems like we could just move to the simpler pull-request model.*
> I think so too, although not sure who will be able to accept/reject a
> push-request to the main repository in Git then. Would be nice if we
> could organize some people that fill that role permanently. At the
> moment it seems to me a bit like a "power vacuum".
> 
> Sebastian
> 
> 
> 2011/12/21 Sarah Allen <[email protected]>:
>> Seems like we could just move to the simpler pull-request model.
>> 
>> On Dec 20, 2011, at 5:48 PM, Raju Bitter wrote:
>> 
>>> Just running the 4-5 lines of Git code Max has sent us to import the
>>> code into a Git repository to get started. The other questions is, how
>>> would contributions be handled, since the whole way commits are
>>> processes is SVN based. Not sure if that's compatible with Git.
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 12:20 AM, Sarah Allen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> sorry -- meant to send this to everyone, but sent the response just to
>>>> David!
>>>> 
>>>> +1 for github -- I really like the forking feature with very nice support
>>>> for pull-requests
>>>> 
>>>> I ran into Chris Helgeson from Laszlo Systems the other day.  He says that
>>>> he welcomes contributions from the community.  They have a few engineers on
>>>> staff who work on the platform and I think there are more contributors who
>>>> don't work for Laszlo Systems now.
>>>> 
>>>> What's involved in switching over?
>>>> 
>>>> Sarah
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 16, 2011, at 10:48 AM, David Greisen wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I'm putting my vote in for github.
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Raju Bitter
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tucker, are you going to set up a Git repository for the OpenLaszlo
>>>>> source code? I've just seen that you can use Git with sourceforge as
>>>>> well:
>>>>> http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Git
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://sourceforge.net/p/forge/documentation/Classic%20vs%20Beta%20projects/
>>>>> SourceForge.net provides the following features in its Git offering:
>>>>> 
>>>>>    All 1.6.x features of git are supported.
>>>>>    Developer (read/write) access is provided via ssh.
>>>>>    anonymous (read-only) access are provided via git's daemon
>>>>> protocol ("git://").
>>>>>    Several Git clients are supported, including:
>>>>>        The official git client (MS Windows, Mac OS X, Linux, BSD).
>>>>>    Repositories may be viewed via web browser using the GitWeb.
>>>>>    Existing repositories may be imported via a normal git push (since
>>>>> git is a distributed SCM).
>>>>>    Repository access may be granted or revoked from a developer using
>>>>> the Project Admin interface.
>>>>>    Repository backups and mirroring may be performed using rsync or git
>>>>> clone.
>>>>>    Service usage is not restricted by quotas.
>>>>>    Multiple repositories are supported.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But I have no experience with Git and sourceforge. As an alternative,
>>>>> Github could be used (open source projects should be free).
>>>>> 
>>>>> What do you think the next steps should be? I'm not willing to
>>>>> approach Laszlo, the company has let so many opportunities pass to
>>>>> talk to the community, that they have lost any credibility with me.
>>>>> But I can imagine that some of you have better connections to the
>>>>> management team.
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Raju
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Raju Bitter
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> Thanks, will do. :-)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 12:25 AM, Ono Keiji <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Raju,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If you will have an online meeting, let me know the time.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - ono
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 引用 Raju Bitter <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> @Tucker: Yes, would be good to use that domain for now. Don't know if
>>>>>>>> we should use OpenLaszlo at all as a name.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I haven't heard anything from Laszlo. I'd be surprised if there would
>>>>>>>> be any official response.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It seems like there is still a number of people using OpenLaszlo, and
>>>>>>>> some more with general interest in the technology. OpenLaszlo is still
>>>>>>>> mentioned on the IBM Websphere Commerce edition website:
>>>>>>>> goo.gl/qT6iu
>>>>>>>> "WebSphere Commerce features compiling OpenLaszlo applications,
>>>>>>>> including an editor for OpenLaszlo files and a compilation process."
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If each of us would reach out to their OpenLaszlo network, to find out
>>>>>>>> who'd be interested in working on or contributing to OpenLaszlo hosted
>>>>>>>> at Github (maybe even under a new name), that might helpful. Once we
>>>>>>>> have identified a circle of community members interested in the
>>>>>>>> project, we could come up with an agenda for an online meeting to
>>>>>>>> discuss the next steps. What do you think?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> - Raju
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 9:17 PM, David Greisen <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> So this thread has been going for several days. Has there been any
>>>>>>>>> response
>>>>>>>>> from Laszlo Systems? At what point should we start scraping the
>>>>>>>>> listserve
>>>>>>>>> archives and forums?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 1:37 PM, James Simister <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Tucker and Sarah,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Lol, I read it as OLD dev as well.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Bret
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 07, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Sarah Allen <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Funny -- I read that as OLD dev at first glance. Ok for the interim,
>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>> we gotta work on naming if change domains... my guess is that Laszlo
>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>> appreciate the volunteer support :)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 7, 2011, at 10:21 AM, P T Withington wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> If it's of any interest, I have a domain oldev.org that I set
>>>>>>>>>>> aside
>>>>>>>>>>> should openlaszlo.org become non-functional. Let me know if you
>>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>>> to use
>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2011-12-06, at 01:44, Raju Bitter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot Sarah, I like the more positive thread title.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually
>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>> would be cool to continue OL on Github. I've created a lot of
>>>>>>>>>>>> useful
>>>>>>>>>>>> code in the past years, and I'd be much more happy to contribute
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> code to an independent project.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> @Max: You once said that you have created a script for updating
>>>>>>>>>>>> Github? Do you still have that somewhere?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Raju
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Sarah Allen
>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for starting this thread I'm re-naming it to be a bit
>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>> positive. I'd like to see it as an "organization" on github then
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> easier for a few of us to be administrators.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sarah
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 5, 2011, at 12:44 PM, Raju Bitter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Tucker. It's good to know that the source is available
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sourceforge, thanks for making that happen. I think Max has a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> script
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> somewhere to update his Github repository:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/mcarlson/openlaszlo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From what I'm hearing there's still enough interest in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> technology
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to have an active community do basic maintenance work, in case
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laszlo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is not interested in or capable of doing that in the future.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's time to reach out to the active community members to see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's enough momentum to continue development on either
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sourceforge
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or Github.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 4:00 PM, P T Withington <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It worries me to At least there is a mirror of the sources on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sourceforge. Sorry I didn't get one on github.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 5, 2011, at 2:04, Raju Bitter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It seems that Laszlo finally stopped working on OpenLaszlo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> haven't been any checkins to the platform since October 21st
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2011.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there haven't been any nightly builds since the same day.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Based on the mailing list activity in the past months, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> team
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> size
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> must be down to 1-2 people, probably not working full-time on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project - if at all. As a long time supporter, contributor,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd appreciate an update on the status of the project.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't care about a specific release date for 5.0. But does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Laszlo discontinues OpenLaszlo?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> Ono Keiji
>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>> Mizue Edogawa Tokyo JP
>>>>>>> URL http://www.net8.co.jp
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
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