And would hat officially be a fork of OpenLaszlo? Or are you planning to work with Chris and his team?
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Raju Bitter <[email protected]> wrote: > Sarah, > > why doesn't Chris send an email out to the community, if he's > interested in our contributions? We are just an email away. > >> They have a few engineers on staff who work on the platform... > http://www.openlaszlo.org/pipermail/laszlo-checkins/ > Which work, don't see any checkins since October, besides the work on > the video components you have done. :-) > > I believe it takes a bit more than a few community members > contributing from time to time to keep this platform running. The > first step would be to have a discussion, and gather people. That's > what I've suggested, to have a call and see who's interested at all. > > Without a plan, people are just going to add a few contributions from > time to time, but where's the general strategy? Who's going to do QA > for these changes? What should the focus be? Add runtime specific > features? Fix bugs? > > All of that would need to be discussed, and without project > responsibilities, there's not much going to happen. > > Best, > Raju > On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 12:20 AM, Sarah Allen <[email protected]> wrote: >> sorry -- meant to send this to everyone, but sent the response just to >> David! >> >> +1 for github -- I really like the forking feature with very nice support >> for pull-requests >> >> I ran into Chris Helgeson from Laszlo Systems the other day. He says that >> he welcomes contributions from the community. They have a few engineers on >> staff who work on the platform and I think there are more contributors who >> don't work for Laszlo Systems now. >> >> What's involved in switching over? >> >> Sarah >> >> >> On Dec 16, 2011, at 10:48 AM, David Greisen wrote: >> >> I'm putting my vote in for github. >> >> On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Raju Bitter >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Tucker, are you going to set up a Git repository for the OpenLaszlo >>> source code? I've just seen that you can use Git with sourceforge as >>> well: >>> http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Git >>> >>> http://sourceforge.net/p/forge/documentation/Classic%20vs%20Beta%20projects/ >>> SourceForge.net provides the following features in its Git offering: >>> >>> All 1.6.x features of git are supported. >>> Developer (read/write) access is provided via ssh. >>> anonymous (read-only) access are provided via git's daemon >>> protocol ("git://"). >>> Several Git clients are supported, including: >>> The official git client (MS Windows, Mac OS X, Linux, BSD). >>> Repositories may be viewed via web browser using the GitWeb. >>> Existing repositories may be imported via a normal git push (since >>> git is a distributed SCM). >>> Repository access may be granted or revoked from a developer using >>> the Project Admin interface. >>> Repository backups and mirroring may be performed using rsync or git >>> clone. >>> Service usage is not restricted by quotas. >>> Multiple repositories are supported. >>> >>> But I have no experience with Git and sourceforge. As an alternative, >>> Github could be used (open source projects should be free). >>> >>> What do you think the next steps should be? I'm not willing to >>> approach Laszlo, the company has let so many opportunities pass to >>> talk to the community, that they have lost any credibility with me. >>> But I can imagine that some of you have better connections to the >>> management team. >>> >>> - Raju >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Raju Bitter >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > Thanks, will do. :-) >>> > >>> > On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 12:25 AM, Ono Keiji <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> Hi Raju, >>> >> >>> >> If you will have an online meeting, let me know the time. >>> >> >>> >> - ono >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> 引用 Raju Bitter <[email protected]>： >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>> @Tucker: Yes, would be good to use that domain for now. Don't know if >>> >>> we should use OpenLaszlo at all as a name. >>> >>> >>> >>> I haven't heard anything from Laszlo. I'd be surprised if there would >>> >>> be any official response. >>> >>> >>> >>> It seems like there is still a number of people using OpenLaszlo, and >>> >>> some more with general interest in the technology. OpenLaszlo is still >>> >>> mentioned on the IBM Websphere Commerce edition website: >>> >>> goo.gl/qT6iu >>> >>> "WebSphere Commerce features compiling OpenLaszlo applications, >>> >>> including an editor for OpenLaszlo files and a compilation process." >>> >>> >>> >>> If each of us would reach out to their OpenLaszlo network, to find out >>> >>> who'd be interested in working on or contributing to OpenLaszlo hosted >>> >>> at Github (maybe even under a new name), that might helpful. Once we >>> >>> have identified a circle of community members interested in the >>> >>> project, we could come up with an agenda for an online meeting to >>> >>> discuss the next steps. What do you think? >>> >>> >>> >>> - Raju >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 9:17 PM, David Greisen <[email protected]> >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> So this thread has been going for several days. Has there been any >>> >>>> response >>> >>>> from Laszlo Systems? At what point should we start scraping the >>> >>>> listserve >>> >>>> archives and forums? >>> >>>> >>> >>>> David >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 1:37 PM, James Simister <[email protected]> >>> >>>> wrote: >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Thanks Tucker and Sarah, >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Lol, I read it as OLD dev as well. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Bret >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> On Dec 07, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Sarah Allen <[email protected]> >>> >>>>> wrote: >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Funny -- I read that as OLD dev at first glance. Ok for the interim, >>> >>>>> but >>> >>>>> we gotta work on naming if change domains... my guess is that Laszlo >>> >>>>> will >>> >>>>> appreciate the volunteer support :) >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> On Dec 7, 2011, at 10:21 AM, P T Withington wrote: >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> > If it's of any interest, I have a domain oldev.org that I set >>> >>>>> > aside >>> >>>>> > should openlaszlo.org become non-functional. Let me know if you >>> >>>>> > want >>> >>>>> > to use >>> >>>>> > it. >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > On 2011-12-06, at 01:44, Raju Bitter wrote: >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> >> Thanks a lot Sarah, I like the more positive thread title. >>> >>>>> >> Actually >>> >>>>> >> it >>> >>>>> >> would be cool to continue OL on Github. I've created a lot of >>> >>>>> >> useful >>> >>>>> >> code in the past years, and I'd be much more happy to contribute >>> >>>>> >> the >>> >>>>> >> code to an independent project. >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> @Max: You once said that you have created a script for updating >>> >>>>> >> Github? Do you still have that somewhere? >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> Thanks, >>> >>>>> >> Raju >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Sarah Allen >>> >>>>> >> <[email protected]> >>> >>>>> >> wrote: >>> >>>>> >>> Thanks for starting this thread I'm re-naming it to be a bit >>> >>>>> >>> more >>> >>>>> >>> positive. I'd like to see it as an "organization" on github then >>> >>>>> >>> it >>> >>>>> >>> is >>> >>>>> >>> easier for a few of us to be administrators. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>>> >>> Sarah >>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>>> >>> On Dec 5, 2011, at 12:44 PM, Raju Bitter wrote: >>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>>> >>>> Thanks, Tucker. It's good to know that the source is available >>> >>>>> >>>> on >>> >>>>> >>>> sourceforge, thanks for making that happen. I think Max has a >>> >>>>> >>>> script >>> >>>>> >>>> somewhere to update his Github repository: >>> >>>>> >>>> https://github.com/mcarlson/openlaszlo >>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>>>> >>>>> From what I'm hearing there's still enough interest in the >>> >>>>> >>>>> technology >>> >>>>> >>>> to have an active community do basic maintenance work, in case >>> >>>>> >>>> Laszlo >>> >>>>> >>>> is not interested in or capable of doing that in the future. >>> >>>>> >>>> Maybe >>> >>>>> >>>> it's time to reach out to the active community members to see >>> >>>>> >>>> if >>> >>>>> >>>> there's enough momentum to continue development on either >>> >>>>> >>>> sourceforge >>> >>>>> >>>> or Github. >>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>>>> >>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 4:00 PM, P T Withington <[email protected]> >>> >>>>> >>>> wrote: >>> >>>>> >>>>> It worries me to At least there is a mirror of the sources on >>> >>>>> >>>>> sourceforge. Sorry I didn't get one on github. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 5, 2011, at 2:04, Raju Bitter >>> >>>>> >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>>>>> It seems that Laszlo finally stopped working on OpenLaszlo. >>> >>>>> >>>>>> There >>> >>>>> >>>>>> haven't been any checkins to the platform since October 21st >>> >>>>> >>>>>> 2011. >>> >>>>> >>>>>> And >>> >>>>> >>>>>> there haven't been any nightly builds since the same day. >>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>> >>>>>> Based on the mailing list activity in the past months, the >>> >>>>> >>>>>> team >>> >>>>> >>>>>> size >>> >>>>> >>>>>> must be down to 1-2 people, probably not working full-time on >>> >>>>> >>>>>> the >>> >>>>> >>>>>> project - if at all. As a long time supporter, contributor, >>> >>>>> >>>>>> committer >>> >>>>> >>>>>> I'd appreciate an update on the status of the project. >>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>> >>>>>> I don't care about a specific release date for 5.0. But does >>> >>>>> >>>>>> that >>> >>>>> >>>>>> mean >>> >>>>> >>>>>> that Laszlo discontinues OpenLaszlo? >>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> ------------------------------------------ >>> >> Ono Keiji >>> >> [email protected] >>> >> Mizue Edogawa Tokyo JP >>> >> URL http://www.net8.co.jp >>> >> ------------------------------------------ >>> >> >>> >> >>
