'Not only essential but if paramount importance' ey?!

Seriously though - do you think that any of the people at GFH have any credit 
whatsoever for the way this has been handled? I see that the statement that GFH 
has met all te clubs liabilities and will continue to do so has been removed 
from the website - hmmm.

It's clearly all out war between them and Flowers. They want to sell to Cellino 
and he wants to buy. It's game over I'm afraid.


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> On 5 Feb 2014, at 15:32, "Dr Michael Benjamin" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Jim
> I don't think any of them are idiots apart from Haigh.
> Having been on the inside of a local league side here [say like
> Harrogate Town] you have no idea how intricate it is.
> Money is not only essential. It is of paramount importance. More than that
> it has to be managed well and professionally. Otherwise, it's worse than
> not having it. If not chaos ensues.
> Far too often we designate expenses and then look for 'payments'. It never
> works. So you are chasing deficits, overdrafts and deferred payments. The
> tension seeps into the dressing room.
> 
> After that there has to be a club policy with goals.  Again, it sounds
> obvious, but it's far from simple. What are your ultimate goals? Costs,
> time and so on are all part of that. How do you generate the money to get
> the goals? What's realistic? What's pessimistic? How far can we really go
> with these facilities? Who are crowd? What is our potential. [Here, for my
> guys the sky is the limit. Over ten years. But we can dream and fulfill
> those dreams]
> These very basic issues are hard to settle. You have a few people who all
> have ego issues. Getting a decision is hard. Most prefer a workable
> ambiguity which always ends in chaos.
> I think that you can understand at this point why I do not discount
> Cellino. Up to this he solves everything.
> 
> Then you have the professional side. There is a huge difference between the
> overseer of all things professional and the head coach. The aim is three
> years with the same team with occasional top ups. Hopefully the third year
> will see promotion with a team than can stay up. Maybe even do back to
> back promotions. So you have to keep the teams happy. Most of the money
> going on increasing wages. Funneling money into increasing salaries. Third
> year starts again, hopefully seamlessly.
> 
> Now the hardest point to accept. In that setup coaches are expendable. They
> can lose and gain dressing rooms. It's the Head Of Football that counts. He
> gives the stability.
> 
> In the UK the set up is not so well defined. As I said, Brian is head cook
> and bottle washer. ManU, in real terms has this system. Man City are going
> that way too. Morrinhio and Abromowitz had to work hard at a compromise.
> Arsenal is a case that I cannot quite fathom. Wenger IMO is a unique
> phenomenon who I almost hero worship. But that's not the point now.
> 
> Looking at friend Cellino, I would ask about the head of football. Was
> there one? Did he survive?
> 
> One last point. As the head of the club you do interfere. We have two
> coaches I would string from the goal posts. I forcibly don't bring my
> opinion to bear. The head of football knows what I think. He also knows we
> are not in a pissing competition. So they stay and I mutter!
> I should imagine being a multimillionaire with a mercurial temperament
> might not be the same.
> 
> My take on the situation:
> In no way should Haigh continue as MD. The same for the  Chairman.
> 
> If Brian & Cellino can do a Abramowitz - Morrinhio rapprochement -- then we
> have truly won.
> I doubt that. I fear that we are swirling round the plug hole with too many
> people around the basin fucking around with the taps and plug.
> 
> Michael
> 
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>> On 4 February 2014 22:10, Jim Moran <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I've played football all my life and I've never got any better at it,
>> despite practising every week.
>> 
>> The manager does 2 things you can't do;
>> 
>> 1) manage very wealthy but bored individuals to play a game week in week
>> out. Motivate them. Understand them. Overcome any tiny issues they have
>> that gives them the minute percentages over their competitors individually
>> and importantly as a team.
>> 
>> 2) sell players that aren't good enough or fitting into the team's system
>> and replace them with more suitable alternatives. Example - Matt Smith only
>> works if there's a winger putting the ball on his head. I suspect this
>> happened in training, but for whatever reason didn't happen in games. Smith
>> may have bagged a few on Saturday with our wingers back in form.
>> 
>> BmcD has had too many issues thrown on him by the clubs useless owners and
>> previous managers to manage point 1 yet.
>> 
>> He's also had his hands tied on point 2.
>> 
>> Cellino is clearly an idiot when it comes to football, and that's proven.
>> Anyone who sacks that many managers is either incompetent at appointing
>> managers or incompetent at letting them manage.
>> 
>> --
>> 
>>> On 4 Feb 2014, at 19:35, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It's not my job to know or identify this "modern" manager. All I know is
>> that our football is poor. It looks poor, doesn't entertain and doesn't get
>> results. I fail to see any progress in our players skills or team
>> performances under McDermott. My belief is that a competent manager
>> instills his tactics on to the team regardless of personal. After all they
>> do practice for many hours a week and both McDermott and his staff have
>> coaches licenses. Are they not coaching the players? Isn't it their job to
>> develop the players, to improve their abilities? To develop the team? If
>> they have such little impact on the end product then what are they being
>> paid to do that I couldn't do?
>>> Cheers
>>> Mark
>>> El Presidente Wisconsin Whites
>>> Leeds United
>>> Chicago Fire
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 19:26:39 +0000
>>>> Subject: Re: [LU] LU: the ongoing fiasco
>>>> 
>>>> Who is this "Modern" manager you think will magically turn our squad
>> into an
>>>> attractive footballing team overnight?   As I'm sure you'll agree It's a
>>>> tough complicated job managing a football team and changing the culture
>> of a
>>>> club.  If we look at previous successful managers (Revie, Wilko, Graham,
>>>> DOL) at our club none, with the exception of DO'L had overnight success
>> and
>>>> he was lucky to have inherited Graham's team with a sprinkling of
>> Academy
>>>> Players and Pistol Pete's financial madness.   Changing managers is
>> never a
>>>> recipe for long term success, UNLESS you have the financial wherewithal
>> to
>>>> buy a whole new team to match the incomers plans.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: Mark [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>> Sent: 04 February 2014 14:49
>>>> To: Nicholas Armit; John Lee; Richard Naef; 'Leeds List'
>>>> Subject: RE: [LU] LU: the ongoing fiasco
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Being a top notch gentleman aside...McDermott has to go no matter who
>> owns
>>>> our club. Our football has been dire. We need a "modern" manager who
>>>> understands the ball is to be controlled and passed. We've shown no
>>>> improvement over the season that he can either coach or demand such
>> needed
>>>> skills. He's just a younger version of Sam Allyardace.
>>>> I believe that the Godfather will at least bring in someone who takes us
>>>> that direction.
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Mark
>>>> El Presidente Wisconsin Whites
>>>> Leeds United
>>>> Chicago Fire
>>>> 
>>>> 
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