I thought of that. A few things are essential. Money is the first of them .
I am not writing Cellino off as the 'bad boy'. All of these guys cut corners and bend rules. There are three kinds. Those that don't get caught, those that do & those who haven't a clue what's going on. Cellino knows football. He has money. He got caught. Did he learn? His methods and expectations are iffy at best but can be altered. They are not engraved in stone. The question is Brian & his expectations and flexibility. Cellino can be upgraded, GFH cannot. A lot is dependent on Brian. Here I am hopeful. No, I am not buying into his saintliness. He's a nice guy. But he is a shrewd man, thinks on his feet, sees the whole picture, is flexible, listens to advice and has the guts to be his own man. And that is much more operatively important than being the nice guy that he is Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist ------------------------------- myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT http://www.myRay.com http://www.myRay.org ------------------------------ Mental Health: http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com -------------------------------- Auditing || Quality Control http://www.MyDoctorExplains.com/alamo/ -------------------------------- Blog: http://www.DrMichaelBenjamin.com On 5 February 2014 09:43, Ian Murray <[email protected]> wrote: > 'Not only essential but if paramount importance' ey?! > > Seriously though - do you think that any of the people at GFH have any > credit whatsoever for the way this has been handled? I see that the > statement that GFH has met all te clubs liabilities and will continue to do > so has been removed from the website - hmmm. > > It's clearly all out war between them and Flowers. They want to sell to > Cellino and he wants to buy. It's game over I'm afraid. > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 5 Feb 2014, at 15:32, "Dr Michael Benjamin" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Jim > > I don't think any of them are idiots apart from Haigh. > > Having been on the inside of a local league side here [say like > > Harrogate Town] you have no idea how intricate it is. > > Money is not only essential. It is of paramount importance. More than > that > > it has to be managed well and professionally. Otherwise, it's worse than > > not having it. If not chaos ensues. > > Far too often we designate expenses and then look for 'payments'. It > never > > works. So you are chasing deficits, overdrafts and deferred payments. The > > tension seeps into the dressing room. > > > > After that there has to be a club policy with goals. Again, it sounds > > obvious, but it's far from simple. What are your ultimate goals? Costs, > > time and so on are all part of that. How do you generate the money to get > > the goals? What's realistic? What's pessimistic? How far can we really go > > with these facilities? Who are crowd? What is our potential. [Here, for > my > > guys the sky is the limit. Over ten years. But we can dream and fulfill > > those dreams] > > These very basic issues are hard to settle. You have a few people who all > > have ego issues. Getting a decision is hard. Most prefer a workable > > ambiguity which always ends in chaos. > > I think that you can understand at this point why I do not discount > > Cellino. Up to this he solves everything. > > > > Then you have the professional side. There is a huge difference between > the > > overseer of all things professional and the head coach. The aim is three > > years with the same team with occasional top ups. Hopefully the third > year > > will see promotion with a team than can stay up. Maybe even do back to > > back promotions. So you have to keep the teams happy. Most of the money > > going on increasing wages. Funneling money into increasing salaries. > Third > > year starts again, hopefully seamlessly. > > > > Now the hardest point to accept. In that setup coaches are expendable. > They > > can lose and gain dressing rooms. It's the Head Of Football that counts. > He > > gives the stability. > > > > In the UK the set up is not so well defined. As I said, Brian is head > cook > > and bottle washer. ManU, in real terms has this system. Man City are > going > > that way too. Morrinhio and Abromowitz had to work hard at a compromise. > > Arsenal is a case that I cannot quite fathom. Wenger IMO is a unique > > phenomenon who I almost hero worship. But that's not the point now. > > > > Looking at friend Cellino, I would ask about the head of football. Was > > there one? Did he survive? > > > > One last point. As the head of the club you do interfere. We have two > > coaches I would string from the goal posts. I forcibly don't bring my > > opinion to bear. The head of football knows what I think. He also knows > we > > are not in a pissing competition. So they stay and I mutter! > > I should imagine being a multimillionaire with a mercurial temperament > > might not be the same. > > > > My take on the situation: > > In no way should Haigh continue as MD. The same for the Chairman. > > > > If Brian & Cellino can do a Abramowitz - Morrinhio rapprochement -- then > we > > have truly won. > > I doubt that. I fear that we are swirling round the plug hole with too > many > > people around the basin fucking around with the taps and plug. > > > > Michael > > > > Dr Michael Benjamin, > > Community Psychiatrist > > ------------------------------- > > myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT > > http://www.myRay.com > > http://www.myRay.org > > ------------------------------ > > Mental Health: > > http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com > > -------------------------------- > > Auditing || Quality Control > > http://www.MyDoctorExplains.com/alamo/ > > -------------------------------- > > Blog: > > http://www.DrMichaelBenjamin.com > > > > > >> On 4 February 2014 22:10, Jim Moran <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> I've played football all my life and I've never got any better at it, > >> despite practising every week. > >> > >> The manager does 2 things you can't do; > >> > >> 1) manage very wealthy but bored individuals to play a game week in week > >> out. Motivate them. Understand them. Overcome any tiny issues they have > >> that gives them the minute percentages over their competitors > individually > >> and importantly as a team. > >> > >> 2) sell players that aren't good enough or fitting into the team's > system > >> and replace them with more suitable alternatives. Example - Matt Smith > only > >> works if there's a winger putting the ball on his head. I suspect this > >> happened in training, but for whatever reason didn't happen in games. > Smith > >> may have bagged a few on Saturday with our wingers back in form. > >> > >> BmcD has had too many issues thrown on him by the clubs useless owners > and > >> previous managers to manage point 1 yet. > >> > >> He's also had his hands tied on point 2. > >> > >> Cellino is clearly an idiot when it comes to football, and that's > proven. > >> Anyone who sacks that many managers is either incompetent at appointing > >> managers or incompetent at letting them manage. > >> > >> -- > >> > >>> On 4 Feb 2014, at 19:35, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> It's not my job to know or identify this "modern" manager. All I know > is > >> that our football is poor. It looks poor, doesn't entertain and doesn't > get > >> results. I fail to see any progress in our players skills or team > >> performances under McDermott. My belief is that a competent manager > >> instills his tactics on to the team regardless of personal. After all > they > >> do practice for many hours a week and both McDermott and his staff have > >> coaches licenses. Are they not coaching the players? Isn't it their job > to > >> develop the players, to improve their abilities? To develop the team? If > >> they have such little impact on the end product then what are they being > >> paid to do that I couldn't do? > >>> Cheers > >>> Mark > >>> El Presidente Wisconsin Whites > >>> Leeds United > >>> Chicago Fire > >>> > >>> > >>>> From: [email protected] > >>>> To: [email protected] > >>>> Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 19:26:39 +0000 > >>>> Subject: Re: [LU] LU: the ongoing fiasco > >>>> > >>>> Who is this "Modern" manager you think will magically turn our squad > >> into an > >>>> attractive footballing team overnight? As I'm sure you'll agree > It's a > >>>> tough complicated job managing a football team and changing the > culture > >> of a > >>>> club. If we look at previous successful managers (Revie, Wilko, > Graham, > >>>> DOL) at our club none, with the exception of DO'L had overnight > success > >> and > >>>> he was lucky to have inherited Graham's team with a sprinkling of > >> Academy > >>>> Players and Pistol Pete's financial madness. Changing managers is > >> never a > >>>> recipe for long term success, UNLESS you have the financial > wherewithal > >> to > >>>> buy a whole new team to match the incomers plans. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> From: Mark [mailto:[email protected]] > >>>> Sent: 04 February 2014 14:49 > >>>> To: Nicholas Armit; John Lee; Richard Naef; 'Leeds List' > >>>> Subject: RE: [LU] LU: the ongoing fiasco > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Being a top notch gentleman aside...McDermott has to go no matter who > >> owns > >>>> our club. Our football has been dire. We need a "modern" manager who > >>>> understands the ball is to be controlled and passed. We've shown no > >>>> improvement over the season that he can either coach or demand such > >> needed > >>>> skills. He's just a younger version of Sam Allyardace. > >>>> I believe that the Godfather will at least bring in someone who takes > us > >>>> that direction. > >>>> Cheers > >>>> Mark > >>>> El Presidente Wisconsin Whites > >>>> Leeds United > >>>> Chicago Fire > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Leedslist mailing list > >>>> Info and options: > >> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > >>>> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > >>>> > >>>> John 'Grampa' Sykes > >>>> Rest In Peace old lad > >>>> 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 > >>>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Leedslist mailing list > >>> Info and options: > >> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > >>> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > >>> > >>> John 'Grampa' Sykes > >>> Rest In Peace old lad > >>> 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 > >>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leedslist mailing list > >> Info and options: > >> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > >> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > >> > >> John 'Grampa' Sykes > >> Rest In Peace old lad > >> 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 > >> MARCHING ON TOGETHER > > _______________________________________________ > > Leedslist mailing list > > Info and options: > http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > > > John 'Grampa' Sykes > > Rest In Peace old lad > > 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 > > MARCHING ON TOGETHER > > _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
