Good, but take a fancy underwear  to be ready to undress at the border.  <;-
Also, if you think that you will find America anywhere  in America, you could  
be dissapointed. 
Anna
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Deus Ex Machina 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 8:44 PM
  Subject: Re: [Libertarian] Re: the truth....


  spot on. this is why I am planning on moving to the US.

  Vic


  Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  > The U.S. most certainly has culture.  It is a culture of excellence. 
  > It is a culture of diversity.  It is a culture of creativity.  It is
  > historically a culture of freedom and despite the efforts of some is
  > still vastly more free than any other industrialized nation on earth.  
  > 
  > Where do you think Rock & Roll was invented?  Where was the assembly
  > line created?  What nation has the best films? (and don't even try to
  > claim it's anywhere in Europe or India because you'll be laughed at) 
  > Where was Jazz created?  
  > 
  > Virtually every great invention in the last 150 years has come from
  > America.  We also have some of the best artists in music, film, stage,
  > painting, poetry, etc.  
  > 
  > America has a culture that embraces the best in all things and makes
  > it our own.  The very best Mexicans, Black, Irish, Italians, Russians,
  > Chinese, Indian, Persian, etc. people aren't in Mexico, Africa,
  > Ireland, Italy, Russia, China, India, Iran, or anywhere else.  They
  > are right here in America.  They got tired of their situation and
  > instead of whining about it, they came here to work and build
  > something better.  
  > 
  > The most productive, intelligent, hard-working, dedicated, and
  > talented people on earth come to America for a chance to make it on
  > thier own talents.  Many would run through a hail of bullets merely
  > for the chance to vote and to live under capitalism.  These people are
  > usually the ones in communist or socialist nations.
  > 
  > Because people are rewarded under capitalism, the best artists,
  > doctors, lawyers, engineers, writers, scientists, and others come here
  > where their dedication and hard work will pay off.  Every member of
  > the Bolshoi Ballet would have given up everything they had for the
  > chance to be a regular dancer on Broadway.  
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > --- In [email protected], "Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  > >
  > > Under communism, art flourished. For example, neither Bolshoi Ballet
  > nor Kirow could ever achieve the artistic excellence they had when
  > they were not "free". What killed  art, was capitalism, or rather a
  > change of goals, from a spiritual/artistic, to  PROFITS FIRST.
  > > Do you think USA has  culture? 
  > > Please note, that culture is a foundation of every  enlightened
  > society. 
  > > Anna
  > >   ----- Original Message ----- 
  > >   From: mark robert 
  > >   To: [email protected] 
  > >   Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 6:42 AM
  > >   Subject: RE: [Libertarian] Re: the truth....
  > > 
  > > 
  > >   Anna,
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > >   A gold-based economy is yet another topic. For purposes of this
  > >   discussion, money is a scorecard for the amount of goods/services
  > >   produced. In that sense, capitalism "values" art; artists are
  > >   some of the richest people. Are you also trying to say that this
  > >   system doesn't value the spiritual? Wrong again. Capitalism
  > >   values anything that people value - the more free the market, the
  > >   less the difference. If you disagree, please point to
  > >   non-capitalist places that have bigger churches or more people
  > >   with more time and money to pursue all sorts of traditional and
  > >   non-traditional "spiritual" goals.
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > >   -Mark
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > >     _____  
  > > 
  > >   This would be only correct if money was backed by the real goods.
  > > 
  > >   Otherwise money is as good as the paper it is written one.
  > >   This is actually the situation that  USA is now in. 
  > > 
  > >   What about other values?  A good model must also acknowledge
  > >   spiritual needs. 
  > >   Where does an artist fit in your society?
  > >   Anna
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