From: Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > So then you are saying that the right to property is 
> conditional. 
> Interesting position.  Still not a libertarian one, but interesting
> none the less.  One would also have to wonder which other rights you
> consider conditional - life maybe, or liberty?  I am just curious.
> > 
> > BWS
> >
> 
> 
> It's amazing how you consistantly attempt to put words in my mouth
> that have absolutely nothing even remotely similar to anything I've
> actually said and expect to get away with it.
> 
> Please show me exactly where I said or even suggested that owning
> property is conditional.  Bringing property into America for the
> purpose of selling it is conditional, owning it isn't.  

If I own it I should be able to do with it what I choose, as long as I do not 
violate the equal rights of others.  That is the right to property.  To bring 
my property, that I own to a place to sell it, is my right.  If I secure 
permission of the associated property owners, I am operating in a perfectly 
moral manner.  If anyone interferes that is not involved in the transaction 
(such as the Mafia, terrorist or a government) then they are operating in an 
immoral manner.  My right to dispose of my property in any way that does not 
transgress against the property rights of other INDIVIDUALS (caps for emphasis) 
is unconditional.  There are no moral group rights or unless they have agreed 
to a partnership or have ownership specificly in common, no group property 
rights.  

Now if I owned an access to the ocean, a water right of way and a store on the 
land that was next to the ocean, MORALLY I could bring in anything I wished and 
sell it to whomever would buy it and no one not involved could morally 
interfere.  It was your direct implication that I should need the permission of 
an uninvolved 3rd party to move my property on my property.  And while that is 
the current law of the land, it is very very very wrong and immoral and very 
very un-libertarian and anti-liberty.

And if you are not saying that it is a condition of me being able to move my 
property to receive permission from someone not involved to exercise my rights, 
then what are you saying?  And what right do you have to tell me what i can and 
can't do with my property?  And by what mechanism can you cede that non 
existent right to a government?

BWS


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