You have no reasons other than idealogy? I'am from a no right-to-work state who's economy is on a downward spiral, and the fact is that the 10 states with the worst rate of worker exodus are non right to work states. My brother is a trained welder, and he quit his very well paying job for a less paying job out of frustration over the many problems inherint in unions of non right-to-work states.
Michigan's unemployment rate is growing, its economy is griding to a hault. The downside of right-to-work as that it, for obvious reasons, statistacly results in lower wages for workers. However, it seems the benifit to the over all economy and decrease in unemployment outwieghs that draw back. Now, your blind anti goverment point of view is understandable, but there are more forms of intitutional agression than just government. Are you simply an anti US goverment person, or are you one who stands for the right of the individual. You claim an employers rights, but if that employer can not resit the strength of a union is that realy his free will or an act of agression by the union coercing him to agree to there terms. Drop the ideology, I am looking to talk pragmaticly --- In [email protected], "hrearden_hr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It is a matter of the right for an employer to enter into certatin > working arangements with employees. Employers are not forced to sign > contracts that state that being a member of a union is a condition of > employement. No person is forced to work for a particular employer. If > one does not want to join a union and union membership is compulsory > in order to work for a particular employer then they can choose not > work for that particular employer. At one time there were employers > who actually prefered to hire union members because unions trained > workers for certain skilled jobs and thus if one was a union member > the employer knew that they had been trained for the job by the union > or guild. Why should the government not allow employers and employees > to enter into certain working arrangements? I support the freedom of > employers and employees to enter into whatever contract they both > agree to. The government does not and should not be involved. > > $ > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "uncoolrabbit" <uncoolrabbit@> > wrote: > > > > That does not apply much to the points I actualy care about. The > > ratio between loss and gain from the balancing act of wages versus > > unemployment. > > > > You can attack right-to-work, from both sides with a Libertarian > > standpoint, either yours against or as a protection of the > > individuals libertey to not be coerced by unions. Making an > > idealogical point for or against is not, effective. If you could > > quantify your stance though, it would be intrest to me. IE You don't > > believe it is the role of the state because it has *THIS NEGATIVE > > IMPACT* supported by *THIS SET OF STATISTICAL FACTS*. > > > > --- In [email protected], "hrearden_hr" <HRearden@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I live in a right to work state but I don't work in a unionized > > > industry. I oppose right to work laws because they interfere with > > the > > > type of agreements employers and employees can enter in to. I > > support > > > a separation of economy and state. In a capitalist economy the > > state > > > would dictate which type of agrrements employers and employees can > > > enter in to. It is a matter of principle with me. I don't believe > > the > > > state should favor either the employer or employee in matters of > > > employement, benefits, wages, salaries, etc... or act as a > > arbitrator > > > in disputes between employees and employers. I don't see that as a > > > legitimate roll of the state. > > > > > > $ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "uncoolrabbit" <uncoolrabbit@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Any one here working in a right-to-work state , preferably one > > working > > > > in a unionized industry, who could give there point of view on > > right- > > > > to-work legislation? I am from a state with out such legislation > > and I > > > > want a better perspective of the pro's and cons of such > > legislations, > > > > or lack of legislation, effect on economic growth, work force > > growth, > > > > saleries and unemployment. > > > > > > > > > > ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
