we are not "at war" with anyone

What pathetic and outright stupid logic.  As I have said before, I am
not happy that we are at war and held strong reservations about going
to war before we went.  This is exactly the kind of thing that really
turns people off from the LP and libertarianism in general, including
myself.  The whole movement has been taken over by the "Blame America
First" crowd.  America is to blame for every conflict in the world,
either for starting it in the first place or for not stepping in to
stop it.  SImply because I am not screaming for a full retreat in a
war that I didn't even support in the first place, and would rather
give our military support rather than Vietnam-style hate, doesn't
somehow equate to an armed robbery.  Jesus! Please step in line to
spit in the faces of our troops when they come home. 


Since World War II, the decision-making power of Congress to declare
war has been voluntarily limited to issuing authorizations of force.
The War Powers Resolution of 1973 (Public Law 93-148) limits the
power of the President of the United States to wage war without the
approval of the Congress.  Military engagements authorized by Congress
Many times, the United States has engaged in extended military
engagements that, while not formally declared wars, were explicitly
authorized by Congress, short of a formal declaration of war.  These
were:

Quasi-War France 1798   Convention of 1800 (Treaty of Mortefontaine)
First Barbary War Barbary States 1801   
Second Barbary War Barbary States 1815   
Raid of slave traffic Africa 1820   
Redress for attack on U.S. Navy vessel Paraguay 1859   
Intervention during the Russian Civil War Bolshevist Russia 1918   
Protection of Lebanon Rebels 1958   
Vietnam War National Liberation Front, later Democratic Republic of
Vietnam Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, August 7, 1964
Restoration of Lebanese government  1982   
Invasion of Panama a.k.a. Operation Just Cause Panama Defense Force
December 20, 1989   Manuel Noriega deposed
Persian Gulf War a.k.a. Operation Desert Storm Iraq January 12, 1991
52-47 250-183 The United Nations Security Council drew up terms for
the cease-fire, April 3, 1991
Invasion of Afghanistan a.k.a Operation Enduring Freedom Taliban
government of Afghanistan,
al-Qaida and other alleged terrorist groups S.J. Res. 23
September 18, 2001
Iraq War a.k.a. Operation Iraqi Freedom Iraq H.J. Res. 114,
October 16, 2002

PLease do not illustrate your ignorance by trying to lecture me on
history.

WG

--- In [email protected], "kiddleddee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "wgilbert02" <buckygilbert@>
> wrote:
> >
> > I must agree with you here Eric.  I had issues with the war and
still
> > do, but we are at war and must hope to achieve our objectives and
> > quit harping on the past.
>
______________________________________________________________________
>
> I had serious reservations when I set out to rob this bank and
snuff
> the bank guard, but now that I'm actually here, I have to hope that
I
> can pull off the robbery successfully, but now I have to snuff the
> other bank employees and customers as well.
>
> BTW, we are not "at war" with anyone. No declaration of war has
been
> declared as per the requirements of the United State constitution
since
> 1941 and that declaration of war was recinded with the treaties of
1945
> which ended WW2.
>






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