Trying to maintain your position with no more basis than that*,
in the face of such well-based opposition, is being VERY
argumentative.

*"more disastrous". ???

Any disaster is a direct result of our mistake. Yet you would
apparently use said disaster to support continuing the mistake.
Your logic has a flaw/circle the size of Texas.

The solution is to pull out. (I thought I already said that.)

-Mark




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So what is your solution.  I'm not trying to start an argument
here.  I just want to hear your solution and others.  I am not
closed minded on this subject, but currently  am of the belief
that
withdrawing will be more disastrous for the US and Iraq than
continuing to try and create a democracy. Although I don't
believe
you can simply export democracy, I do see some signs that some
Iraqi's are trying to establish a sound democracy in the Middle
East.

--- In [email protected], "kiddleddee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "wgilbert02"
<buckygilbert@>
> wrote:
> All i'm
> > disagreeing with is what should be done now, so please spare
me
the
> > lecture on the 'illegal war in Iraq.' I get it, i'm on your
side. 
>
_________________________________________________________________
____
_
>
> I'm not real sure you are on "our" side. It is a pretty core
corollary,
> I believe, of libertarian thinking that once it is determined
that
an
> act is an act of illegal aggression, the act should cease and
desist
> immediately; to continue to engage in the act is simply
habitual,
> serial criminality. Having "agreed" that the "war" in Iraq is
illegal,
> you now seem to be advocating habitual, serial criminality;
while
I
> can't speak for others on this group, it seems to me that
advocates of
> such flagrant criminality are decidedly not on "our" side.
>





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