"America is to blame for every conflict in the world..." (blaming
libertarians for having the position).
I countered with:
"No one here that I know, or nothing that I know as
Libertarianism, has EVER done as you claim: blamed America for
every conflict in the world."
Now you come along with this:
"I have seen statements made on this very blog to the effect that
all current world conflict is the result of US interference."
Not only don't you supply the quotes, you water-down the original
claim with "to the effect" and "CURRENT world conflict". Debating
lessons for the day:
1.) When you want to use old posts to prove your claim, don't
allude to them without specifically quoting/citing them.
2.) Don't change that which you intend to disagree, especially
for the purpose of making your disagreement easier.
-Mark
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--- In [email protected], "mark robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> WG,
>
> I'll have a crack at your ignorance, ok? No one here that I
know,
> or nothing that I know as Libertarianism, has EVER done as you
> claim and imply:
> 1.) Blamed America for every conflict in the world;
> 2.) blamed America for not stepping in to stop conflicts;
> 3.) spit in the faces of our troops when they came home.
>
> -Mark
>
>
>
>
>
> ************
> {American jurors have complete Constitutional authority to vote
> "not guilty" based on nothing more than a disagreement with the
> case, no matter the evidence - despite the judge's
instructions.
> There is absolutely no obligation to vote "guilty" to arrive at
a
> unanimous verdict. Get on a jury, stand your ground, and
fulfill
> its other main purpose: to counteract abusive government and
> unjust lawsuits.
> See www.fija.org
> [Please adopt this as your own signature.] }
>
> --------------
>
>
> What pathetic and outright stupid logic. As I have said
before,
> I am
> not happy that we are at war and held strong reservations about
> going
> to war before we went. This is exactly the kind of thing that
> really
> turns people off from the LP and libertarianism in general,
> including
> myself. The whole movement has been taken over by the "Blame
> America
> First" crowd. America is to blame for every conflict in the
> world,
> either for starting it in the first place or for not stepping
in
> to
> stop it. SImply because I am not screaming for a full retreat
in
> a
> war that I didn't even support in the first place, and would
> rather
> give our military support rather than Vietnam-style hate,
doesn't
>
> somehow equate to an armed robbery. Jesus! Please step in line
> to
> spit in the faces of our troops when they come home.
>
>
Snipped
That is just plain false. More than once I have seen statements
made
on this very blog to the effect that all current world conflict
is the
result of US interference.
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