It would take a seven-eighths vote to remove the reference
to opposition to the cult of the omnipotent state. If we don't
oppose it, who will?
For life and liberty,
David Macko
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 9:00 PM
Subject: [Libertarian] Re: Badnarik on Immigration
>I also slightly disagree with the party platform on abortion and
> immigration. It's not clear enough. It should say, "The Libertarian
> Party supports the right of a woman to have an abortion at any time
> from conception to birth without any permission, oversight, or
> notification of any other person or government" and "The Libertarian
> Party recognizes that America was built by immigrants and the fact
> that the founders created America to welcome all immigrants from all
> nations, so we support the elimination of all immigration laws and of
> the INS itself and welcome and unlimited number of immigrants from any
> nation on earth to come here to live and work peacefully."
>
> I wouldn't mind eliminating the insane "Cult of the Omnipotent State"
> garbage either.
>
>
>
> --- In [email protected], "David Macko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> I have no desire or intention to eliminate the pledge. I support most
>> of the platform, with the exceptions of the immigration and abortion
> planks.
>>
>> For life and liberty,
>> David Macko
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 4:15 PM
>> Subject: [Libertarian] Re: Badnarik on Immigration
>>
>>
>> I would never support you or anyone else who wants to change the party
>> platform or to eliminate our pledge.
>>
>> Libertarians support unlimited immigration from any nation on earth.
>>
>> The U.S. government is given no authority over immigration by the
>> Constitution.
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In [email protected], "David Macko" <dmacko@> wrote:
>> >
>> > I plan to attend the National Convention in Portland, Oregon.
>> > Does anyone wish to support me in trying to change our National
>> > Platform so that it conforms to the sensible policies which are
>> > stated below?
>> >
>> > For life and liberty,
>> > David Macko
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: <boyd.w.smith@>
>> > To: "Golden Triangle Libertarians"
>> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Libertarian
>> Enterprise Main"
>> > <[email protected]>; "Libertarian Yahoo Group"
>> > <[email protected]>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 12:15 PM
>> > Subject: [Libertarian] Badnarik on Immigration
>> >
>> >
>> > > Immigration is among the most contentious issues facing America
>> today, and
>> > > the specters of terrorism and war have only added fuel to an
>> already fiery
>> > > debate. Let's take an objective look at immigration, borders and
>> > > legitimate national security concerns.
>> > >
>> > > Coupled with reasonable immigration for the peaceful, we must
>> maintain a
>> > > vigorous national defense against our enemies.
>> > >
>> > > Terrorists and criminals who attempt to enter the US via a Customs
>> and
>> > > Immigration station should be denied entry and, where applicable,
>> arrested
>> > > and detained or extradited.
>> > >
>> > > Terrorists and criminals who attempt to enter the US via other
> points
>> > > along its 95,000 miles of border and coastline should be treated
>> as what
>> > > they are: invaders against whom we must respond. As long as our
>> defense
>> > > forces restrain themselves to reasonable rules of engagement,
>> doing this
>> > > will much better guarantee our security with little risk of dire
>> > > consequences to the occasional innocent refugees.
>> > >
>> > > We must reject the foreign-adventurist concept of national defense
>> that
>> > > keeps American troops overseas covering for nationalist and
> corporate
>> > > meddling in the affairs of other nations. A better national
>> defense policy
>> > > would be one which, lacking any real attack which might require
>> > > retaliation elsewhere, focuses on the logical area: the nation's
>> borders.
>> > >
>> > > We must work to either replace or reclassify the Border Patrol and
>> treat
>> > > border issues as what they are: national defense issues coming
>> under the
>> > > mission and scope of our defense forces. In an age where the
>> equivalent of
>> > > a large invasion force can be packed into a suitcase-sized box
>> containing
>> > > nuclear, chemical or biological weapons, no lesser response will do.
>> > >
>> > > Immigration and border security are two separate issues.
>> > >
>> > > When immigration and border security are jumbled together, the
>> result is
>> > > both deadly to peaceful immigrants and subversive of the security
>> of the
>> > > United States.
>> > >
>> > > By any reasonable measure, properly-regulated immigration is not
> just
>> > > beneficial to the American economy but indispensable to the goal
> of a
>> > > nation of freedom and opportunity. This nation was built on
>> immigration.
>> > > Allowing peaceful people to enter our country appropriately is not
>> just an
>> > > option. It's a benchmark by which we measure whether or not we're
>> living
>> > > up to the American ideal. Coupled with a benign foreign policy, it
>> is what
>> > > makes America the beacon of Liberty in what was once and would be
>> again an
>> > > otherwise dark world for most people.
>> > >
>> > > This does not mean, however, that the national defense must be
>> sacrificed
>> > > to some naive conception of "open borders."
>> > >
>> > > The privilege of entering the United States is not the right to
>> invade the
>> > > United States in contest with its legitimate interest in securing
>> itself
>> > > against those who would do it harm.
>> > >
>> > > Peaceful immigrants should be allowed to enter the US at
> conveniently
>> > > located Customs and Immigration stations, subject only to brief
>> vetting to
>> > > ensure that they are not terrorists or criminals, and reasonable
>> > > consideration of the nation's ability to assimilate them.
>> Unreasonable
>> > > restrictions and quotas should not leave potential productive
>> citizens
>> > > with no options other than to remain destitute elsewhere or to
>> place their
>> > > lives at risk by attempting to cross the border at remote and
>> dangerous
>> > > locations; this, often under the guidance of ruthless "coyotes"
>> who are as
>> > > likely to leave them to die as to get them safely across, and then
>> only to
>> > > lead embarrassingly criminal lives of fear of detection, detention
>> and
>> > > deportation.
>> > >
>> > > Not only is the current border policy not working, it is making
>> national
>> > > defense a more difficult task. Foreign nationals crossing into
> the US
>> > > illegally, because they were denied legal entry without good reason,
>> > > provide cover, by their sheer numbers, for terrorists and
>> criminals. The
>> > > black market in smuggling people constitutes a vector for also
>> bringing
>> > > the nation's enemies into our homeland.
>> > >
>> > > The welfare state needs to be eliminated whether immigration is an
>> issue
>> > > or not.
>> > >
>> > > We should not have to worry about foreigners invading us just so
>> they can
>> > > eat out our substance on the dole. The possibility of "safety net"
>> abuse
>> > > is not a good excuse for excluding immigrants. The so-called
>> safety net is
>> > > not a solution for the plight of poor immigrants, it is one of the
>> worst
>> > > enticements to illegal trespass by foreign nationals.
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