talking about the kikes and niggers, that did not make them right
then and it does not make you right now. This is not cut and dry,
this is one of those things that happen so often when there is the
agressor and the passive victim. The individual that kills to avoid
responsibility, and the inoccent victim who is helplessly victimized.
--- In [email protected], "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> In every example you mentioned, you were discussing those who were
> born. The women, Jews, blacks, etc. all had birth in common.
This is
> the moment they became human beings and obtained rights and not a
> second before.
>
> Your idiotic comparison between my opinion that a fetus has no
human
> life to the persecution of Jews, blacks, or women in the middle-
east
> is worthless and holds no validity. It's no different than me
> smashing bricks and you comparing it to the holocaust.
>
> If I say a brick has no human life, are you going to compare it to
> blacks, Jews, and women? Why not? How about if I said dogs have
no
> human life? Would you mention blacks, Jews, and women then? Why
not?
>
> Bricks and dogs have every bit as much human life as a fetus;
which is
> to say they have none.
>
> Making our platform defend abortion is not meddling in the lives of
> anyone. Making a Constitutional amendment protecting the right to
> unrestricted abortions without any permission or notification of
> anyone would not interfere or meddle in the lives of anyone. It
would
> be a legitimate and libertarian use of the government to defend the
> RIGHT to have an abortion. Government is here to defend the
rights we
> are BORN with, and these rights including having abortions and
having
> SOLE DOMINION over our own bodies and all organisms within those
> bodies without any oversight by the government, or permission or
> notification of anyone.
>
> To make a firm, clear, and unwavering stand in favor of completely
> unrestricted abortion would be a huge philosophical victory for
> libertarians, and for human rights. Nobody would be prevented from
> being wronged, because abortion doesn't wrong anyone.
>
>
>
>
> --- In [email protected], "uncoolrabbit" <uncoolrabbit@>
> wrote:
> >
> > In the Taliban book anything but a burka is obscene for a woman
to
> > wear in public. In the NAZI book jews were inferior parasites
with
> > no right to live. In the book of Jim Crow laws blacks were less
than
> > second class citizens. Thank Liberty that one mans book does not
> > always prevail in forcing his dementions on all the world.
> >
> > The fact of the matter is that some view a Fetus as inhuman,
and
> > others do not, just as some viewed thouse of african decent and
> > inhuman and others never did.
> >
> > I want no federal law banning abortion, but I also want no
federal
> > law defending it, especialy not unconditionaly. The federal
> > goverment has no place medling in peoples lives Paul, and the
only
> > federal law I could support dealing with Abortion is one that is
> > strichtly limited to dealing with discrepencies between state
laws
> > regaurding abortions.
> >
> > To make a firm stand infavor of unrestrichted abortion would be
a
> > real philosophical failure for Libertarianism. It would support
> > deprive a wronged individual from seeking justice, and that
should
> > be contrary to libertey in any ones book.
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "Paul" <ptireland@> wrote:
> > >
> > > There is no such thing as an unborn child or an unbaked cake,
> > however
> > > there are fetuses and there is dough.
> > >
> > > The man has nothing at all to say about the abortion and
neither
> > does
> > > any other person, group of people, or government on earth.
> > >
> > > In my book, a fetus has no more human life than a brick.
You're
> > free
> > > to have your own opinion, but neither your opinion, nor mine
> > matter in
> > > the slightest. The only person whose opinion matters is the
> > pregnant
> > > woman. She has SOLE DOMINION over her body and all organisms
> > within
> > > that body. Nobody else on earth has any decision making power
over
> > > whether or not she has an abortion, or any legitimate right to
> > prevent
> > > or punish her for having one or even to be notified about one
for
> > that
> > > matter.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "uncoolrabbit"
<uncoolrabbit@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If a husband has no right to be informed of the contract
killing
> > of
> > > > his unborn child, why should you have any right for
reperations
> > if a
> > > > member of your family is murdered for profit? Or, do you
believe
> > > > also that manslaughter and hired hitmen are things that
should
> > also
> > > > be not only legalized, but actualy protected by legislature?
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], "Paul" <ptireland@>
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Cult of the omnipotent state makes us all sound insane
and
> > > > we're
> > > > > not an anarchist organization
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. Nobody has a right to be informed if a woman is having
an
> > > > > abortion. Not her parents, her husband, her church, or
any
> > other
> > > > > person or group of people on earth except for the doctor
> > performing
> > > > > the abortion.
> > > > >
> > > > > 3. I'd be for eliminating the entire Homeland Security
> > Department
> > > > and
> > > > > all subdepartments within it.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In [email protected], "steven linnabary"
> > > > > <linnabary51@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Paul" <ptireland@>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I also slightly disagree with the party platform on
> > abortion
> > > > and
> > > > > > > immigration. It's not clear enough. It should
say, "The
> > > > Libertarian
> > > > > > > Party supports the right of a woman to have an
abortion at
> > any
> > > > time
> > > > > > > from conception to birth without any permission,
> > oversight, or
> > > > > > > notification of any other person or government"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think a husband might have a right to know if his wife
is
> > > > getting an
> > > > > > abortion. And a religious community that the woman is
part
> > of
> > > > might
> > > > > also
> > > > > > have the same right (in a contractual sense). Afterall,
the
> > > > Roman
> > > > > Catholic
> > > > > > Church certainly has the right to excommunicate somebody
> > that
> > > > violates a
> > > > > > major tenet of that faith.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But no government body has the right or privilege to
tell
> > > > somebody
> > > > > what to
> > > > > > do with their body (except in an individual contractual
> > sense,
> > > > as the
> > > > > > military might do in wartime).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and "The Libertarian
> > > > > > > Party recognizes that America was built by immigrants
and
> > the
> > > > fact
> > > > > > > that the founders created America to welcome all
> > immigrants
> > > > from all
> > > > > > > nations, so we support the elimination of all
immigration
> > laws
> > > > and of
> > > > > > > the INS itself and welcome and unlimited number of
> > immigrants
> > > > from any
> > > > > > > nation on earth to come here to live and work
peacefully."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > INS has been abolished...sort of. It was combined with
> > Customs
> > > > into ICE
> > > > > > (Immigration & Customs Enforcement).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I wouldn't mind eliminating the insane "Cult of the
> > Omnipotent
> > > > State"
> > > > > > > garbage either.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why should we eliminate what tells the world what we
stand
> > for?
> > > > > Should we
> > > > > > only resort to wishy-washy verbiage that means less, and
can
> > be
> > > > more
> > > > > easily
> > > > > > taken out of context?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > PEACE
> > > > > > Steven R. Linnabary, Treasurer
> > > > > > Franklin County Libertarian Party
> > > > > > (614) 891-8841
> > > > > > P.O.Box#115; Blacklick, OH 43004-0115
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "When you make peaceful revolution impossible, you make
> > violent
> > > > > revolution
> > > > > > inevitable" John F. Kennedy
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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