In every example you mentioned, you were discussing those who were
born.  The women, Jews, blacks, etc. all had birth in common.  This is
the moment they became human beings and obtained rights and not a
second before. 

Your idiotic comparison between my opinion that a fetus has no human
life to the persecution of Jews, blacks, or women in the middle-east
is worthless and holds no validity.  It's no different than me
smashing bricks and you comparing it to the holocaust. 

If I say a brick has no human life, are you going to compare it to
blacks, Jews, and women?  Why not?  How about if I said dogs have no
human life?  Would you mention blacks, Jews, and women then?  Why not?

Bricks and dogs have every bit as much human life as a fetus; which is
to say they have none. 

Making our platform defend abortion is not meddling in the lives of
anyone.  Making a Constitutional amendment protecting the right to
unrestricted abortions without any permission or notification of
anyone would not interfere or meddle in the lives of anyone.  It would
be a legitimate and libertarian use of the government to defend the
RIGHT to have an abortion.  Government is here to defend the rights we
are BORN with, and these rights including having abortions and having
SOLE DOMINION over our own bodies and all organisms within those
bodies without any oversight by the government, or permission or
notification of anyone.

To make a firm, clear, and unwavering stand in favor of completely
unrestricted abortion would be a huge philosophical victory for
libertarians, and for human rights.  Nobody would be prevented from
being wronged, because abortion doesn't wrong anyone.




--- In [email protected], "uncoolrabbit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> In the Taliban book anything but a burka is obscene for a woman to
> wear in public. In the NAZI book jews were inferior parasites with
> no right to live. In the book of Jim Crow laws blacks were less than
> second class citizens. Thank Liberty that one mans book does not
> always prevail in forcing his dementions on all the world.
>
> The fact of the matter is that some view a  Fetus as inhuman, and
> others do not, just as some viewed thouse of african decent and
> inhuman and others never did.
>
> I want no federal law banning abortion, but I also want no federal
> law defending it, especialy not unconditionaly. The federal
> goverment has no place medling in peoples lives Paul, and the only
> federal law I could support dealing with Abortion is one that is
> strichtly limited to dealing with discrepencies between state laws
> regaurding abortions.
>
> To make a firm stand infavor of unrestrichted abortion would be a
> real philosophical failure for Libertarianism. It would support
> deprive a wronged individual from seeking justice, and that should
> be contrary to libertey in any ones book.
>
> --- In [email protected], "Paul" <ptireland@> wrote:
> >
> > There is no such thing as an unborn child or an unbaked cake,
> however
> > there are fetuses and there is dough.
> >
> > The man has nothing at all to say about the abortion and neither
> does
> > any other person, group of people, or government on earth.
> >
> > In my book, a fetus has no more human life than a brick.  You're
> free
> > to have your own opinion, but neither your opinion, nor mine
> matter in
> > the slightest.  The only person whose opinion matters is the
> pregnant
> > woman.  She has SOLE DOMINION over her body and all organisms
> within
> > that body.  Nobody else on earth has any decision making power over
> > whether or not she has an abortion, or any legitimate right to
> prevent
> > or punish her for having one or even to be notified about one for
> that
> > matter.
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "uncoolrabbit" <uncoolrabbit@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > If a husband has no right to be informed of the contract killing
> of
> > > his unborn child, why should you have any right for reperations
> if a
> > > member of your family is murdered for profit? Or, do you believe
> > > also that manslaughter and hired hitmen are things that should
> also
> > > be not only legalized, but actualy protected by legislature?
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "Paul" <ptireland@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 1.  Cult of the omnipotent state makes us all sound insane and
> > > we're
> > > > not an anarchist organization
> > > >
> > > > 2.  Nobody has a right to be informed if a woman is having an
> > > > abortion.  Not her parents, her husband, her church, or any
> other
> > > > person or group of people on earth except for the doctor
> performing
> > > > the abortion.
> > > >
> > > > 3.  I'd be for eliminating the entire Homeland Security
> Department
> > > and
> > > > all subdepartments within it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], "steven  linnabary"
> > > > <linnabary51@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Paul" <ptireland@>
> > > > >
> > > > > > I also slightly disagree with the party platform on
> abortion
> > > and
> > > > > > immigration.  It's not clear enough.  It should say, "The
> > > Libertarian
> > > > > > Party supports the right of a woman to have an abortion at
> any
> > > time
> > > > > > from conception to birth without any permission,
> oversight, or
> > > > > > notification of any other person or government"
> > > > >
> > > > > I think a husband might have a right to know if his wife is
> > > getting an
> > > > > abortion.  And a religious community that the woman is part
> of
> > > might
> > > > also
> > > > > have the same right (in a contractual sense).  Afterall, the
> > > Roman
> > > > Catholic
> > > > > Church certainly has the right to excommunicate somebody
> that
> > > violates a
> > > > > major tenet of that faith.
> > > > >
> > > > > But no government body has the right or privilege to tell
> > > somebody
> > > > what to
> > > > > do with their body (except in an individual contractual
> sense,
> > > as the
> > > > > military might do in wartime).
> > > > >
> > > > >    and "The Libertarian
> > > > > > Party recognizes that America was built by immigrants and
> the
> > > fact
> > > > > > that the founders created America to welcome all
> immigrants
> > > from all
> > > > > > nations, so we support the elimination of all immigration
> laws
> > > and of
> > > > > > the INS itself and welcome and unlimited number of
> immigrants
> > > from any
> > > > > > nation on earth to come here to live and work peacefully."
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > INS has been abolished...sort of.  It was combined with
> Customs
> > > into ICE
> > > > > (Immigration & Customs Enforcement).
> > > > >
> > > > > > I wouldn't mind eliminating the insane "Cult of the
> Omnipotent
> > > State"
> > > > > > garbage either.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Why should we eliminate what tells the world what we stand
> for?
> > > > Should we
> > > > > only resort to wishy-washy verbiage that means less, and can
> be
> > > more
> > > > easily
> > > > > taken out of context?
> > > > >
> > > > > PEACE
> > > > > Steven R. Linnabary, Treasurer
> > > > > Franklin County Libertarian Party
> > > > > (614) 891-8841
> > > > > P.O.Box#115;  Blacklick, OH  43004-0115
> > > > >
> > > > > "When you make peaceful revolution impossible, you make
> violent
> > > > revolution
> > > > > inevitable"  John F. Kennedy
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>










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