Please Mark, skip the jargon and propaganda. Would you please give an honest
and thoughtful reply to the questions I asked.
Notice how I began? "OK, let's simplify this, shall we?"
You have done the opposite. I simply want a direct and honest reply to the
questions.
If you do not have an answer, that is OK...just say so. We can then drop the
needless continuation of this discussion.
On 7/2/06, mark robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> John,
>
> Inherent in the libertarian plan of non-aggression is a great
> reduction of harm. The whole idea behind the reduction of big
> govt is an increase in health, wealth, and quality-of-life. AFAIK
> it has been fairly well established that the facet of big govt
> which you often defend, forced/govt redistribution of wealth, is
> a force for the quite the opposite: a decrease in health, wealth,
> and quality-of-life; to me, that's worse harm. In other words,
> wealth redistribution already comes at the expense of millions of
> innocent Americans; it is overt, active, direct, flagrant,
> non-consensual, violent, initiated aggression. Govt welfare (sans
> treaties & other true contracts) is not real charity; it is only
> wealth taken from others and a percent "given" to the less
> fortunate. The plan you conclude asking about is the free market,
> which has historically proven to be vastly superior at solving
> the kinds of problems you express concern about.
>
> And your fear of a sudden changeover would also seem unwarranted.
>
>
> -Mark
>
>
> ************
> {American jurors have complete Constitutional authority to vote
> "not guilty" based on nothing more than a disagreement with the
> case, no matter the evidence - despite the judge's instructions.
> There is absolutely no obligation to vote "guilty" to arrive at a
> unanimous verdict. Get on a jury, stand your ground, and fulfill
> its other main purpose: to counteract abusive government and
> unjust lawsuits.
> See www.fija.org
> [Please adopt this as your own signature.] }
>
> ------------------------
>
>
> Ok, let's simplify, shall we?
>
> How do you change from the present system to the utopia you
> endorse without
> harming millions of people?
>
> IF you have no plan for that, then you have no plan at all.
>
> It seems the answer I have received so far is to ignore the
> suffering caused
> by such a changeover, in favor of the 'freedoms' you desire.
>
> Those 'freedoms' would then come at the expense of millions of
> innocent
> Americans.
>
> If you have no plan, Libertarianism has no hope of succeeding.
>
>
>
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