Correct, even today mall roads, industrial park, subdivision and private community roads are often built and maintain by the owners, I have even read that a few non private community roads are maintain by locals through donated labor and or money. While I would like to see the roads out of the hands of the federal and state government I'm not exacattaly thrilled with some of the privitization projects that I have heard about in Western Europe and possibly planned for the US. I don't know that I like the idea of turning over a road to some vast rent seeking politically connected Global ( especially foreign) owned) corporation, although I have heard that the private expressway in Ca. was built without political favors, or stealing other peoples land through eminet domain. It would be better to turn over the roads to the local community or to the former owners when it was taking from them by force. If the local community or former owners want to lease or sale their section of the interstate to a private operator ( and I think many would) they have that right, but some may want to run it themselves as a toll road or continue with no charge to the drivers.--- In [email protected], Urmas Järve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > John, > > You need a lesson in history. > > The first roads in US where privatly owned roads. In Europe some countries have began privatising highways and private companies are constructing them as well. If socialist Portugal can have private highways then why can't a more capitalistic US have them? > > Why are families themselves with private health care not able to take care of the sick and old? I have heard a lot of people complaining that the younger generations don't have good values anymore. But I ask how could they if all the responsibility have been switched over to the state? Just as my grandmother took care of me when I was a child and had an accident what caused me to loose the use of both of my hands for many months, I now take care of her. > I also recommend you research the benefits of private healthcare over public one. > > I suggest you read Hans-Hermann Hoppe's book - The myth of national defense. Also there are plenty of examples in history about private defense. Switzerland is a nice example. Also just look at Iraq. Private armies that are being funded by millions offer nice resistance to the coalition army what is funded by billions. > > About private education I suggest you read up on US history as well. Before public education private schools did the job. When public education got instituted the literacy rate did not improve. Public education is not an improvement. Also there are nice examples in Africa of private schools teaching the youth and providing them with far better education then they would normally get while being cheaper then public education. > I have heard some high school students in US can not read. I can not understand how this can be nor do I know if it is true or not. But what has happened to US tradition of teaching your kids? Is it not the job of the parents to teach their kids and care for them? Here I was taught by my parents to read and write both in Estonian and English before I entered first grade. Of course my English skills are no where near good enough but public school won't make it any better. > > Best wishes, > Urmas > > On 07/02/2006 09:58, John Stroebel wrote: > > > > OK Stephen, let's leave all that aside for a moment. Tell me this: how do > > you propose running this country, building highways, caring for the sick, > > keeping our treaties and agreements and providing or the national > > defence....and education the population without taxing the citizens? > > > > Now please, don't give me any theory BS....like it should be this or is > > should not be that....just tell me how a Libertarian President, should one > > ever be elected, do these things? > > > > It seems to be the weak link in your entire platform. > > > > On 7/1/06, steven linnabary wrote: > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "John Stroebel" > > > > > > > > > > > Well Mr Candidate, lack of education and stupidity, the word YOU choose > > > for > > > > good people you know NOTHING about, is apples and oranges. Do me a > > > > favor....speak with a little dignity. Learn respect for these people. We > > > > have far too many politicians who look down their noses at groups of > > > > Americans. > > > > > > Huh?? I am not a candidate for anything at this time. > > > > > > My reference to "poor stupid Indians" was a condescending swipe at those > > > that think they know what is best for other people. I think you know this. > > > YOU chose to take the reference out of context. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What does that 'hang around the fort' nonsence apply to" The Ute? Tell > > > me > > > > something,....WHAT do you personally know about the WHite Mesa Ute that > > > I > > > > haven't told you? > > > > > > Maybe nothing. I suppose it is theoretically possible that the Ute > > > leadership doesn't "hang around the fort" seeking bigger handouts from > > > their > > > overseers. > > > > > > > > > My guess would b 'squat'. It amazes me when people decide > > > > what is best for others based on something they read or learned in a > > > > theory....like 'all blacks are lazy' or 'all SIcilians are criminals'. > > > That > > > > is a pretty good example of ignorance. Before you cry over the word, > > > check > > > > the definition. > > > > > > > > > > AHA!! YOU said "all blacks are lazy" and "all sicilians are criminals"! > > > > > > Out of context, of course. And I know that is not what you were trying to > > > say. But two can play this game. I'll make a deal with you. You don't > > > take me out of context, actually listen to what I say, and I'll do the > > > same > > > with you. Let's show each other a little respect. OK? > > > > > > > > > > Oh...not having experience and being an ass....apples and oranges. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As an aside, I helped to install the "American Indian" plank to the LP > > > Platform back in '85. Larry Dodge actually wrote it, but it went a long > > > way > > > toward making Russell Means a Libertarian candidate for POTUS in '87. > > > > > > > > > PEACE > > > Steven R. Linnabary, Treasurer > > > Franklin County Libertarian Party > > > (614) 891-8841 > > > P.O.Box#115; Blacklick, OH 43004-0115 > > > > > > "When you make peaceful revolution impossible, you make violent revolution > > > inevitable" John F. Kennedy > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ******************************************************************* > > Are YOU Preparing For The November '06 Elections NOW??? > > > > ******************************************************************* > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Save-The-USA/ > > > > It is time to do something about all this! > > > > ******************************************************************* > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
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