Re: [libsecondlife-dev] Source engine

Thu, 02 Nov 2006 22:31:34 -0800

Remember - a lot of these engines require the maps to be optimised before loading them by the level editors and associated tools, and do not like having to update the scene. Especially not every other frame.
That is the biggest reason most engines would not be able to work - Source, Doom3, Quake, Unreal, etc. 


However, there are two on the market which may work. The tribes engines 
were written for dynamic scene updates (although never really used that 
feature in practice), and the Crytek engine is capable of similar.



But, in practice, all the abstraction you gain, is going to work against 
you, not for you. These engines are optimised for pre-loaded meshes in 
specific formats and will not appreciate trying to load prims.


-Adam

Jonathan wrote:

So, Havok2 does not have finer granularity, ragdoll vectors, and 
particle collusions?


Jesse Nesbitt wrote:


But Havoc2 would serve just to replace Havoc1 for bugs, not to add new
physics features.

On 11/2/06, Jonathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



 I don't disagree.


 Havok2 has physics controls that could cause quite a lot of 
bandwidth if
included on the server end. As you kinda hinted, to license Havok2 
wouldn't
fly far for an open source reverse engineering project. If I read 
correctly,
the Havok2 engine is within the Source Engine, which again wouldn't 
fly far

for an open source reverse engineering project to license.


 However, if somehow Havok2 was included in the client to match the 
physics
of the server... well, real life demands my time right now.. thanks 
for the

talk

 Ryan Gahl wrote:

Ohh, well I'll just stick with my opinion that if anyone is thinking 
about

re-writing a full client, they use something like Ogre (www.ogre3d.org),
that abstracts so much for you, and is free.


On 11/2/06, Jonathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> lol no. Consider what is available as open source or SDK without a

license, how much can be implemented? For example, if we use Half 
Life 2 and
mod it to use libsecondlife access to place textures, maps, etc, how 
for can

it go to work well with the dynamics of Second Life? Perhaps, there is

another published game like Half Life 2 that uses the Source Engine 
and can

provide mod ability and give enough of an interface to interact with SL.
>
> Ryan Gahl wrote:
>
> Uhh... am I missing something or did you just suggest licensing what

amounts to probably a $100,000+ engine for use with an open source 
reverse

engineering project?
>

> I couldn't find anywhere on that page where they mention an open 
source

version... do they have one?
>
>
> On 11/2/06, Jonathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> >
> > Has there been any thought if the Source Engine could be used as a

client interface? This would mean there would be no controls to edit 
content
or administrate groups and land, which may be desirable for members 
that are

not immediately interested in content creation or ownership. You do get

advanced graphics with Havok2 cabilities matched with scalable 
performance

over multi-cores.
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