Im confused  - Scala is not Java. This my friends, is a very good  
thing. You cant expect to start a language and be able to use all the  
advanced features right away.... I doubt you were a meta-programming  
ninja when learning ruby!

Getting back on topic, I read the original link and I admit, it made  
me chuckle somewhat - the author kept referring to so-called "rails  
bashing" and then quoted a performance benchmark statement as being  
"rails bashing"; it is quite obviously a factual statement rather than  
anything aggressive. When your a new framework, people want reasons to  
entertain you and comparing against existing tools is the only way to  
do this.

Regarding his comments on templating - perhaps its a personal  
preference, but I cant help feeling that he slightly didnt get the  
full picture as he only appears to have explored crudify rather than  
the full binding possibilities.

Cheers, Tim

On 22 Oct 2009, at 07:02, ngocdaothanh wrote:

> jlist9,
> This is a Lift group, but I have to say I feel the same about Scala.
> I had to ask for advice here:
> Scala may help me to get my work done for the day. But I don't feel
> happy with Scala. Scala makes me feel I'm a slave all the day to
> machines (or Scala itself!).
> On Oct 22, 2:13 pm, jlist9 <> wrote:
>> override def validations = validPriority _ :: super.validations
>> This is a more of a comment about Scala than one about Lift - this  
>> does
>> look cryptic to me. And this is just one of the simpler syntax that  
>> confuses
>> people, who are new to the language. And I'm one of them.
>> I understand that you don't have to learn all the tricks/syntax to  
>> start
>> coding in Scala but you do have to understand it when you read
>> source code of libraries written by someone with much more advanced
>> language skills.
>> In David's book he says "After more than two years of coding  
>> Scala, ...
>> My brain has finally stopped hurting." This sounds like a very high
>> barrier to entry.
>> I'm just wondering why Scala has to be so complicated. I'm sure a lot
>> of things in Scala have their reasons but at the mean time I also
>> suspect that many of the odd things are there to reduce
>> typing, which is advertised as one of the advantages of this  
>> language -
>> conciseness. (I could be very wrong due to my lack of understanding.)
>> If the latter is true, I feel that I'd rather type a little more to  
>> make the
>> code easier to read.
>> Just feeling a little frustrated learning Scala. I think it's much
>> easier learning
>> Java. Not much surprise. Not sure if anyone shares my experience
>> (and opinion, if there is one.)
>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Randinn <> wrote:
>>> The site above is a blog post from a Rails developer, he had some  
>>> good
>>> and bad things to say about Lift and since I do not know enough to
>>> debate with him I thought I'd post it here.
> >

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