Most of the trails off-limits to bikes would not be suitable connectors anyway.
Most often it has to do with topography.
Rough trails are certainly not going to serve riders who are running errands to 
Donelans.
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Sara Mattes




> On Sep 2, 2023, at 8:37 AM, Nick Maynard <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Building on Bob’s suggestion, currently cycling is officially prohibited on 
> the majority of Lincoln’s trails. Wouldn’t allowing bike riding on these 
> paths:
> - provide alternate commuting/errand routes that are safe from cars for 
> adults and children?
> - provide local cyclists with an option to road riding and thereby ever so 
> slightly reduce congestion.
> - free local trail riders from the guilt/frustration they feel every time 
> they go out on the trails whether they are riding or not (what’s with all the 
> signs? No this, no that?) 
> - if you are vehemently opposed to it, please reconsider your assumptions or 
> the circumstances that lead to your opposition. All my trail interactions 
> over the last 19 years have been pleasant though one rarely encounters other 
> trail users. 
> 
> Nick Maynard 
> 
> On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 8:24 PM Bob Mason <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> Anne,
>> 
>> Roughly speaking I consider the “spine” of Lincoln the trail(s) that start 
>> at Rte 126, go towards and over the train tracks, along Farm Meadow (behind 
>> Lincoln Station), toward the schools and then to Sandy Pond Road. As roughly 
>> illustrated in the attached annotated map. 
>> 
>> I believe one important part of changing “car culture” is to get people of 
>> of their cars and consider biking or walking, even for errands to Donelans, 
>> going to school, etc. Regardless of the aspirational hope that drivers will 
>> change their behavior and be more aware of cyclists, I think we won’t get 
>> more cyclists on the road until we have dedicated, protected infrastructure 
>> for efficient travel.
>> 
>> Personally, I think Lincoln would be a more enjoyable and desirable town if 
>> we could all get around without the need to be in a car. 
>> 
>> Having moved a few years ago from Weston Road to Old Concord Road, my 
>> relationship to the town has become much better for the simple fact I can 
>> walk on a sidewalk or ride my bike from my home to Codman Farm, Donelans, 
>> Twisted Tree and the Post Office. I wish many more of my fellow citizens 
>> could do so feeling safe and protected.
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 2:37 PM Anne Warner <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> What is meant by "the trail that goes up the spine of Lincoln"? 
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 2:12 PM melinda bruno-smith 
>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> Yes, many roads in Lincoln are in dire need of repaving.
>>>> 
>>>> Melinda
>>>> From: Lincoln <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of V Saleme 
>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>> Sent: Friday, September 1, 2023 10:30 AM
>>>> To: Bob Mason <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>> Cc: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>; Alida 
>>>> ZweidlerMcKay <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Bike lanes
>>>>  
>>>> ….. which also implies that the majority of the roads in this town will 
>>>> have to be repaved first in order to accommodate- 
>>>> 
>>>> It’s important to note that many cyclists spend a great deal of time 
>>>> navigating around broken or missing pavement, well jutting out into 
>>>> traffic lanes as a result-it’s extremely dangerous.
>>>> 
>>>> Vic
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 10:24 AM Bob Mason <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> Bob,
>>>> 
>>>> I agree with the sentiment that we need to change the cultural 
>>>> relationship between drivers, cyclists and pedestrians, but having 
>>>> dedicated infrastructure for cyclists/pedestrians is also a very important 
>>>> components of creating safe and accessible multi-modal transportation 
>>>> links. Hence dedicated bike lanes with physical barriers, rail trails, 
>>>> etc. 
>>>> 
>>>> bob
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 9:57 AM Bob Kupperstein <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 9:44 AM Bob Mason <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> I’ve wondered and suggested to some that we consider enhancing the trail 
>>>> that goes up the spine of Lincoln so it can be used more by cyclists. 
>>>> 
>>>> It’s currently designated as a bike trail, but is really only suited for 
>>>> mountain biking. Such an infrastructure investment would allow greater 
>>>> connectivity, including to the schools with riders and walkers not even 
>>>> being close to a road. 
>>>> 
>>>> Bob
>>>> 
>>>> Bob, I feel, as a cyclist, that this only avoids the growth that we need 
>>>> to take as a society - where we all really share the roads. 
>>>> 
>>>> We've been car-centric for so long, the mentality that only cars/trucks 
>>>> really belong on the road is hard to shake.  But, we'll get there with 
>>>> more awareness. 
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 2:13 AM Alida ZweidlerMcKay via Lincoln 
>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> Amen to this:
>>>> 
>>>>>> as a conscientious driver, I hate a day when all the cyclists are out - 
>>>>>> I pray my way through Lincoln and Concord. I wish they had dedicated 
>>>>>> bike lanes. 
>>>> 
>>>> I want bikes to be out on beautiful days in our gorgeous town.  But I’m 
>>>> terrified to pass them and end up following forever until I feel like I 
>>>> can get around them safely. I’m sure I annoy both the cyclist and the cars 
>>>> behind me. 
>>>> 
>>>> Bike lanes seem unlikely, given the land they require, but I sure wish we 
>>>> had them!
>>>> 
>>>> Alida Zweidler-McKay
>>>> 25 Birchwood 
>>>> -- 
>>>> 
>>>> Alida, I have to admit as a cyclist I get annoyed by cars that won't pass, 
>>>> though I know they're just trying to be careful.   I also get very 
>>>> concerned when cars cross into the oncoming lane to pass - I've seen a 
>>>> number of close-calls when that happens.
>>>> 
>>>> I suggest keeping in mind the 4' law/rule - if you're leaving 4' and 
>>>> driving within the speed limit, the cyclist should be/feel safe. 
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