It depends on your riding skills Sara. I have made three trips to Donelan's
almost entirely via our trails this week, carrying 10 to 15 lbs of
groceries on my back. And if one takes a bit of a circuitous route, steep,
technical trails can be avoided. BTW - I have no problem with horses using
our trails.

Kind Regards,

Scott Clary
617-968-5769
Oak Knoll

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On Sat, Sep 2, 2023, 2:11 PM Sara Mattes <[email protected]> wrote:

> Most of the trails off-limits to bikes would not be suitable connectors
> anyway.
> Most often it has to do with topography.
> Rough trails are certainly not going to serve riders who are running
> errands to Donelans.
> ------
> Sara Mattes
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 2, 2023, at 8:37 AM, Nick Maynard <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Building on Bob’s suggestion, currently cycling is officially prohibited
> on the majority of Lincoln’s trails. Wouldn’t allowing bike riding on these
> paths:
> - provide alternate commuting/errand routes that are safe from cars for
> adults and children?
> - provide local cyclists with an option to road riding and thereby ever so
> slightly reduce congestion.
> - free local trail riders from the guilt/frustration they feel every time
> they go out on the trails whether they are riding or not (what’s with all
> the signs? No this, no that?)
> - if you are vehemently opposed to it, please reconsider your assumptions
> or the circumstances that lead to your opposition. All my trail
> interactions over the last 19 years have been pleasant though one rarely
> encounters other trail users.
>
> Nick Maynard
>
> On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 8:24 PM Bob Mason <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Anne,
>>
>> Roughly speaking I consider the “spine” of Lincoln the trail(s) that
>> start at Rte 126, go towards and over the train tracks, along Farm Meadow
>> (behind Lincoln Station), toward the schools and then to Sandy Pond Road.
>> As roughly illustrated in the attached annotated map.
>>
>> I believe one important part of changing “car culture” is to get people
>> of of their cars and consider biking or walking, even for errands to
>> Donelans, going to school, etc. Regardless of the aspirational hope that
>> drivers will change their behavior and be more aware of cyclists, I think
>> we won’t get more cyclists on the road until we have dedicated, protected
>> infrastructure for efficient travel.
>>
>> Personally, I think Lincoln would be a more enjoyable and desirable town
>> if we could all get around without the need to be in a car.
>>
>> Having moved a few years ago from Weston Road to Old Concord Road, my
>> relationship to the town has become much better for the simple fact I can
>> walk on a sidewalk or ride my bike from my home to Codman Farm, Donelans,
>> Twisted Tree and the Post Office. I wish many more of my fellow citizens
>> could do so feeling safe and protected.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 2:37 PM Anne Warner <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> What is meant by "the trail that goes up the spine of Lincoln"?
>>>
>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 2:12 PM melinda bruno-smith <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, many roads in Lincoln are in dire need of repaving.
>>>>
>>>> Melinda
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* Lincoln <[email protected]> on behalf of V
>>>> Saleme <[email protected]>
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, September 1, 2023 10:30 AM
>>>> *To:* Bob Mason <[email protected]>
>>>> *Cc:* [email protected] <[email protected]>; Alida
>>>> ZweidlerMcKay <[email protected]>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [LincolnTalk] Bike lanes
>>>>
>>>> ….. which also implies that the majority of the roads in this town will
>>>> have to be repaved first in order to accommodate-
>>>>
>>>> It’s important to note that many cyclists spend a great deal of time
>>>> navigating around broken or missing pavement, well jutting out into traffic
>>>> lanes as a result-it’s extremely dangerous.
>>>>
>>>> Vic
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 10:24 AM Bob Mason <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Bob,
>>>>
>>>> I agree with the sentiment that we need to change the cultural
>>>> relationship between drivers, cyclists and pedestrians, but having
>>>> dedicated infrastructure for cyclists/pedestrians is also a very important
>>>> components of creating safe and accessible multi-modal transportation
>>>> links. Hence dedicated bike lanes with physical barriers, rail trails, etc.
>>>>
>>>> bob
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 9:57 AM Bob Kupperstein <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 9:44 AM Bob Mason <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I’ve wondered and suggested to some that we consider enhancing the
>>>> trail that goes up the spine of Lincoln so it can be used more by cyclists.
>>>>
>>>> It’s currently designated as a bike trail, but is really only suited
>>>> for mountain biking. Such an infrastructure investment would allow greater
>>>> connectivity, including to the schools with riders and walkers not even
>>>> being close to a road.
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bob, I feel, as a cyclist, that this only avoids the growth that we
>>>> need to take as a society - where we all *really* share the roads.
>>>>
>>>> We've been car-centric for so long, the mentality that only cars/trucks
>>>> *really* belong on the road is hard to shake.  But, we'll get there
>>>> with more awareness.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 2:13 AM Alida ZweidlerMcKay via Lincoln <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Amen to this:
>>>>
>>>> as a conscientious driver, I hate a day when all the cyclists are out -
>>>> I pray my way through Lincoln and Concord. I wish they had dedicated bike
>>>> lanes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I want bikes to be out on beautiful days in our gorgeous town.  But I’m
>>>> terrified to pass them and end up following forever until I feel like I can
>>>> get around them safely. I’m sure I annoy both the cyclist and the cars
>>>> behind me.
>>>>
>>>> Bike lanes seem unlikely, given the land they require, but I sure wish
>>>> we had them!
>>>>
>>>> Alida Zweidler-McKay
>>>> 25 Birchwood
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Alida, I have to admit as a cyclist I get annoyed by cars that won't
>>>> pass, though I know they're just trying to be careful.   I also get very
>>>> concerned when cars cross into the oncoming lane to pass - I've seen a
>>>> number of close-calls when that happens.
>>>>
>>>> I suggest keeping in mind the 4' law/rule - if you're leaving 4' and
>>>> driving within the speed limit, the cyclist should be/feel safe.
>>>>
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