If the Lincoln trail network was open to cyclists, one might choose to ride on the trails rather than the road whether your purpose was exercise or errand. Admittedly, if you only have a road bike this won’t work for you.
Mountain biking is like skiing, some folks like the challenge of narrow trails and trees and others like a more cart path type of trail. Suitability is really a personal perspective dictated by skill and inclination. The point is that if the trails welcomed riders, there would be an option to riding on the road. Nick Maynard On Sun, Sep 3, 2023 at 3:34 PM Sara Mattes <[email protected]> wrote: > Truth > ------ > Sara Mattes > > > > > On Sep 3, 2023, at 2:24 PM, Jack Fultz <[email protected]> wrote: > > Further, the original topic was about bikers on the roads and most of them > are not doing some errand, they’re exercising, and on road bikes they won’t > be taking on trails. > > Walking to the grocery store is great - and viable if one lives within a > mile or so of the store. Great way to combine exercise and doing errands - > do so myself even on a road bike when it makes sense but these occasions > are the rare exception for most people. > > Sent from [email protected] > > On Sep 3, 2023, at 1:52 PM, Scott Clary <[email protected]> wrote: > > > It depends on your riding skills Sara. I have made three trips to > Donelan's almost entirely via our trails this week, carrying 10 to 15 lbs > of groceries on my back. And if one takes a bit of a circuitous route, > steep, technical trails can be avoided. BTW - I have no problem with horses > using our trails. > > Kind Regards, > > Scott Clary > 617-968-5769 > Oak Knoll > > Sent from a mobile device - please excuse typos and errors > > On Sat, Sep 2, 2023, 2:11 PM Sara Mattes <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Most of the trails off-limits to bikes would not be suitable connectors >> anyway. >> Most often it has to do with topography. >> Rough trails are certainly not going to serve riders who are running >> errands to Donelans. >> ------ >> Sara Mattes >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 2, 2023, at 8:37 AM, Nick Maynard <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Building on Bob’s suggestion, currently cycling is officially prohibited >> on the majority of Lincoln’s trails. Wouldn’t allowing bike riding on these >> paths: >> - provide alternate commuting/errand routes that are safe from cars for >> adults and children? >> - provide local cyclists with an option to road riding and thereby ever >> so slightly reduce congestion. >> - free local trail riders from the guilt/frustration they feel every time >> they go out on the trails whether they are riding or not (what’s with all >> the signs? No this, no that?) >> - if you are vehemently opposed to it, please reconsider your assumptions >> or the circumstances that lead to your opposition. All my trail >> interactions over the last 19 years have been pleasant though one rarely >> encounters other trail users. >> >> Nick Maynard >> >> On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 8:24 PM Bob Mason <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Anne, >>> >>> Roughly speaking I consider the “spine” of Lincoln the trail(s) that >>> start at Rte 126, go towards and over the train tracks, along Farm Meadow >>> (behind Lincoln Station), toward the schools and then to Sandy Pond Road. >>> As roughly illustrated in the attached annotated map. >>> >>> I believe one important part of changing “car culture” is to get people >>> of of their cars and consider biking or walking, even for errands to >>> Donelans, going to school, etc. Regardless of the aspirational hope that >>> drivers will change their behavior and be more aware of cyclists, I think >>> we won’t get more cyclists on the road until we have dedicated, protected >>> infrastructure for efficient travel. >>> >>> Personally, I think Lincoln would be a more enjoyable and desirable town >>> if we could all get around without the need to be in a car. >>> >>> Having moved a few years ago from Weston Road to Old Concord Road, my >>> relationship to the town has become much better for the simple fact I can >>> walk on a sidewalk or ride my bike from my home to Codman Farm, Donelans, >>> Twisted Tree and the Post Office. I wish many more of my fellow citizens >>> could do so feeling safe and protected. >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 2:37 PM Anne Warner <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> What is meant by "the trail that goes up the spine of Lincoln"? >>>> >>> >>>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 2:12 PM melinda bruno-smith < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes, many roads in Lincoln are in dire need of repaving. >>>>> >>>>> Melinda >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> *From:* Lincoln <[email protected]> on behalf of V >>>>> Saleme <[email protected]> >>>>> *Sent:* Friday, September 1, 2023 10:30 AM >>>>> *To:* Bob Mason <[email protected]> >>>>> *Cc:* [email protected] <[email protected]>; Alida >>>>> ZweidlerMcKay <[email protected]> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [LincolnTalk] Bike lanes >>>>> >>>>> ….. which also implies that the majority of the roads in this town >>>>> will have to be repaved first in order to accommodate- >>>>> >>>>> It’s important to note that many cyclists spend a great deal of time >>>>> navigating around broken or missing pavement, well jutting out into >>>>> traffic >>>>> lanes as a result-it’s extremely dangerous. >>>>> >>>>> Vic >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 10:24 AM Bob Mason <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Bob, >>>>> >>>>> I agree with the sentiment that we need to change the cultural >>>>> relationship between drivers, cyclists and pedestrians, but having >>>>> dedicated infrastructure for cyclists/pedestrians is also a very important >>>>> components of creating safe and accessible multi-modal transportation >>>>> links. Hence dedicated bike lanes with physical barriers, rail trails, >>>>> etc. >>>>> >>>>> bob >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 9:57 AM Bob Kupperstein <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 9:44 AM Bob Mason <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I’ve wondered and suggested to some that we consider enhancing the >>>>> trail that goes up the spine of Lincoln so it can be used more by >>>>> cyclists. >>>>> >>>>> It’s currently designated as a bike trail, but is really only suited >>>>> for mountain biking. Such an infrastructure investment would allow greater >>>>> connectivity, including to the schools with riders and walkers not even >>>>> being close to a road. >>>>> >>>>> Bob >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Bob, I feel, as a cyclist, that this only avoids the growth that we >>>>> need to take as a society - where we all *really* share the roads. >>>>> >>>>> We've been car-centric for so long, the mentality that only >>>>> cars/trucks *really* belong on the road is hard to shake. But, we'll >>>>> get there with more awareness. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 2:13 AM Alida ZweidlerMcKay via Lincoln < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Amen to this: >>>>> >>>>> as a conscientious driver, I hate a day when all the cyclists are out >>>>> - I pray my way through Lincoln and Concord. I wish they had dedicated >>>>> bike >>>>> lanes. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I want bikes to be out on beautiful days in our gorgeous town. But I’m >>>>> terrified to pass them and end up following forever until I feel like I >>>>> can >>>>> get around them safely. I’m sure I annoy both the cyclist and the cars >>>>> behind me. >>>>> >>>>> Bike lanes seem unlikely, given the land they require, but I sure wish >>>>> we had them! >>>>> >>>>> Alida Zweidler-McKay >>>>> 25 Birchwood >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Alida, I have to admit as a cyclist I get annoyed by cars that won't >>>>> pass, though I know they're just trying to be careful. I also get very >>>>> concerned when cars cross into the oncoming lane to pass - I've seen a >>>>> number of close-calls when that happens. >>>>> >>>>> I suggest keeping in mind the 4' law/rule - if you're leaving 4' and >>>>> driving within the speed limit, the cyclist should be/feel safe. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>>> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >>>>> Browse the archives at >>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>>> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >>>>> Browse the archives at >>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Anne Taubes Warner >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>> -- >>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >>> Browse the archives at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>> Change your subscription settings at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>> >>> -- >> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >> Browse the archives at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >> Change your subscription settings at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >> >> >> -- >> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >> Browse the archives at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >> Change your subscription settings at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >> >> -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to [email protected]. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ > . > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > > > -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to [email protected]. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ > . > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > >
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