Truth ------ Sara Mattes
> On Sep 3, 2023, at 2:24 PM, Jack Fultz <[email protected]> wrote: > > Further, the original topic was about bikers on the roads and most of them > are not doing some errand, they’re exercising, and on road bikes they won’t > be taking on trails. > > Walking to the grocery store is great - and viable if one lives within a mile > or so of the store. Great way to combine exercise and doing errands - do so > myself even on a road bike when it makes sense but these occasions are the > rare exception for most people. > > Sent from [email protected] > >> On Sep 3, 2023, at 1:52 PM, Scott Clary <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> It depends on your riding skills Sara. I have made three trips to Donelan's >> almost entirely via our trails this week, carrying 10 to 15 lbs of groceries >> on my back. And if one takes a bit of a circuitous route, steep, technical >> trails can be avoided. BTW - I have no problem with horses using our trails. >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> Scott Clary >> 617-968-5769 >> Oak Knoll >> >> Sent from a mobile device - please excuse typos and errors >> >> On Sat, Sep 2, 2023, 2:11 PM Sara Mattes <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> Most of the trails off-limits to bikes would not be suitable connectors >>> anyway. >>> Most often it has to do with topography. >>> Rough trails are certainly not going to serve riders who are running >>> errands to Donelans. >>> ------ >>> Sara Mattes >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 2, 2023, at 8:37 AM, Nick Maynard <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Building on Bob’s suggestion, currently cycling is officially prohibited >>>> on the majority of Lincoln’s trails. Wouldn’t allowing bike riding on >>>> these paths: >>>> - provide alternate commuting/errand routes that are safe from cars for >>>> adults and children? >>>> - provide local cyclists with an option to road riding and thereby ever so >>>> slightly reduce congestion. >>>> - free local trail riders from the guilt/frustration they feel every time >>>> they go out on the trails whether they are riding or not (what’s with all >>>> the signs? No this, no that?) >>>> - if you are vehemently opposed to it, please reconsider your assumptions >>>> or the circumstances that lead to your opposition. All my trail >>>> interactions over the last 19 years have been pleasant though one rarely >>>> encounters other trail users. >>>> >>>> Nick Maynard >>>> >>>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 8:24 PM Bob Mason <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> Anne, >>>>> >>>>> Roughly speaking I consider the “spine” of Lincoln the trail(s) that >>>>> start at Rte 126, go towards and over the train tracks, along Farm Meadow >>>>> (behind Lincoln Station), toward the schools and then to Sandy Pond Road. >>>>> As roughly illustrated in the attached annotated map. >>>>> >>>>> I believe one important part of changing “car culture” is to get people >>>>> of of their cars and consider biking or walking, even for errands to >>>>> Donelans, going to school, etc. Regardless of the aspirational hope that >>>>> drivers will change their behavior and be more aware of cyclists, I think >>>>> we won’t get more cyclists on the road until we have dedicated, protected >>>>> infrastructure for efficient travel. >>>>> >>>>> Personally, I think Lincoln would be a more enjoyable and desirable town >>>>> if we could all get around without the need to be in a car. >>>>> >>>>> Having moved a few years ago from Weston Road to Old Concord Road, my >>>>> relationship to the town has become much better for the simple fact I can >>>>> walk on a sidewalk or ride my bike from my home to Codman Farm, Donelans, >>>>> Twisted Tree and the Post Office. I wish many more of my fellow citizens >>>>> could do so feeling safe and protected. >>>>> >>>>> Bob >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 2:37 PM Anne Warner <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> What is meant by "the trail that goes up the spine of Lincoln"? >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 2:12 PM melinda bruno-smith >>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>> Yes, many roads in Lincoln are in dire need of repaving. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Melinda >>>>>>> From: Lincoln <[email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of V Saleme >>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 1, 2023 10:30 AM >>>>>>> To: Bob Mason <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>>> Cc: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>; Alida >>>>>>> ZweidlerMcKay <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Bike lanes >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ….. which also implies that the majority of the roads in this town will >>>>>>> have to be repaved first in order to accommodate- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It’s important to note that many cyclists spend a great deal of time >>>>>>> navigating around broken or missing pavement, well jutting out into >>>>>>> traffic lanes as a result-it’s extremely dangerous. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Vic >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 10:24 AM Bob Mason <[email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>> Bob, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I agree with the sentiment that we need to change the cultural >>>>>>> relationship between drivers, cyclists and pedestrians, but having >>>>>>> dedicated infrastructure for cyclists/pedestrians is also a very >>>>>>> important components of creating safe and accessible multi-modal >>>>>>> transportation links. Hence dedicated bike lanes with physical >>>>>>> barriers, rail trails, etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> bob >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 9:57 AM Bob Kupperstein <[email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 9:44 AM Bob Mason <[email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>> I’ve wondered and suggested to some that we consider enhancing the >>>>>>> trail that goes up the spine of Lincoln so it can be used more by >>>>>>> cyclists. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It’s currently designated as a bike trail, but is really only suited >>>>>>> for mountain biking. Such an infrastructure investment would allow >>>>>>> greater connectivity, including to the schools with riders and walkers >>>>>>> not even being close to a road. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bob >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bob, I feel, as a cyclist, that this only avoids the growth that we >>>>>>> need to take as a society - where we all really share the roads. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We've been car-centric for so long, the mentality that only cars/trucks >>>>>>> really belong on the road is hard to shake. But, we'll get there with >>>>>>> more awareness. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 2:13 AM Alida ZweidlerMcKay via Lincoln >>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>> Amen to this: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> as a conscientious driver, I hate a day when all the cyclists are out >>>>>>>>> - I pray my way through Lincoln and Concord. I wish they had >>>>>>>>> dedicated bike lanes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I want bikes to be out on beautiful days in our gorgeous town. But I’m >>>>>>> terrified to pass them and end up following forever until I feel like I >>>>>>> can get around them safely. I’m sure I annoy both the cyclist and the >>>>>>> cars behind me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bike lanes seem unlikely, given the land they require, but I sure wish >>>>>>> we had them! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Alida Zweidler-McKay >>>>>>> 25 Birchwood >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Alida, I have to admit as a cyclist I get annoyed by cars that won't >>>>>>> pass, though I know they're just trying to be careful. I also get >>>>>>> very concerned when cars cross into the oncoming lane to pass - I've >>>>>>> seen a number of close-calls when that happens. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I suggest keeping in mind the 4' law/rule - if you're leaving 4' and >>>>>>> driving within the speed limit, the cyclist should be/feel safe. >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>>>>> To post, send mail to [email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>. >>>>>>> Browse the archives at >>>>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>>>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>>>>> To post, send mail to [email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>. >>>>>>> Browse the archives at >>>>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>>>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Anne Taubes Warner >>>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>-- >>>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>>> To post, send mail to [email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>. >>>>> Browse the archives at >>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>> To post, send mail to [email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>. >>>> Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>> To post, send mail to [email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>. >>> Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>> Change your subscription settings at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>> >> -- >> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >> Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >> Change your subscription settings at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>
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