On Sun, 21 Jun 1998, Glynn Clements wrote:
> I'm an XEmacs diehard, but I wouldn't claim that the keys are
> particularly `intuitive', but then I wouldn't consider vi's keys
> intuitive either (although I learned vi first). Personally, I think
> that the main downside of the vi model is the command mode vs insert
> mode distinction.
Well, with vi's command mode saves one from the pianist syndrom.
(E.g. alt-shift-5). Of course, that way, your fingers will not
elongate. If you want to play the piano, EMACS is a great
excercise. (Escape-Meta-Alt-Control-Shift isn't just an
acronym).
Please excuse me while I write 100 times
``I will not get into stupid vi/emacs discussions''
(Of couse, with VI it'd just take a second ;-).
> vi and (X)Emacs are (almost) at opposite ends of the scale. vi is
> basically just a text editor. Emacs includes a lisp interpreterand a
Er....emacs *is* a lisp interpreter. It's just that someone chose
to write an editor in it. I prefer editors written in 'C'.
> vast number of add-on packages, including both dumb and
> curses-compatible terminal emulators, mail and news packages, web
> browser, transparent FTP support, version control, file manager,
> calendar, calculator, lisp debugger, lots of online help,some games,
> ... even a vi emulation mode.
Yes, we all know EMACS is a pretty good OS. The question is,
``How easy is it to write text with it?''.
I concede that it is a much better ftp agent then vi. (or even
ls).
> The thing about Emacs is that once you've learned the keys, most of
> them apply generally, so you don't need to learn different keystrokes
> for different packages. Also, bear in mind that the Athena widgets
> also use Emacs keybindings, as does bash (and anything else that uses
> the GNU readline library) by default. Netscape even overrides the
> default Motif bindings with Emacs-compatible ones.
hmm....trying to standarize our way into world domination?
Let me just state for the protocol that I write (C code and
LaTeX code) exclusively in vim, and I found it to be extremely
programmer friendly, including the word-completion feature
nothing can be called an editor without.
Just my 0.02$ worth.
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