On Wednesday 10 December 2003 23:38, Ilya Konstantinov wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 11:07:37PM +0200, Dan Fruehauf wrote:
> > In order to make sure i could connect through linux, i called 012 support
> > line, and asked about their method of connection. I was told that the
> > authentication is done via DHCP, using the cable modem. forgetting to ask
> > for
>
> AFAIK, they've long since stopped using that scheme. Here's how it used
> to work: By cooperating with your cable company, they made the cable
> company's DHCP server allocate your computer a _real_ Internet IP
> address, in the 012.net IP block. You were recognized as an legible
> 012.net subscriber by your cable modem's MAC address (yes, their side
> can match the cable modem's MAC for requests coming from your PC).
> This way, you connect to the Internet without any tunnels ("VPNs").As discussed previously on this list, the VPN way makes it a lot easier for the ISPs to disconnect users. So to say, radical method of bandwidth management. > My ISP, NetVision, offers a PPTP server. And they even claim to support Linux users, although it's pretty hard to catch their Linux support guys, as they are rare and there is no Linux guy for each and every shift. > > I doubt their dialer does anything special. Just ask them for a PPTP > server address and use pptp-client to connect to it. It doesn't. It just creates a new connection. You have to click this connection icon to get connected. > > I suggest you to use my wrapper script for pptp-client, which takes > care of adding the required "route": > http://iglu.org.il/~future/pptp-routed > > > "we dont care, they are probably very few..." > > First of all, they should work on their customer relation skills. But > it's good to "cut through the bullshit" and know their attitude upfront. > > I think it mostly indicates that their support is unprofessional, since > they couldn't figure out that what you need are the raw technical > details: what server the dialer users etc. > > > which linux user would like to stay in an ISP that doesnt give a damn > > **** about him or his convienience? ;/ > > Those support lines are simply full of unskilled monkeys. For they are cheap. And for the vast majority of the situations people call the support in, even their skills + some typical cases' description hanging on the wall are more than sufficient. > ================================================================= > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Regards, Alex Chudnovsky e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 35559910 ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
