Linux-Misc Digest #803, Volume #18 Fri, 29 Jan 99 00:13:14 EST
Contents:
Re: Whats Linux's equiv. of WIN98 Registry? (Jerry Lynn Kreps)
Re: No floppy in Linux ? (Teng-Yan Loke)
Graphics options greyed out in xconfig 2.2.0 ("Michael.Creasy")
Re: Linux on PC's not ready for Enterprise (M Sweger)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Robin Becker)
Re: LILO + shutdown questions ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Setup modem on Sony Vaio 505 notebook (Felix Lam)
Linux Quake Problems ("Hal Raymond")
Re: Zip disk (Stewart Honsberger)
Re: FreeBSD and Linux benchmarks (Nick Hilliard)
Re: LINUX PPP on a SPARC10 (Andrew Sun - UCE revokable account)
Re: Whats Linux's equiv. of WIN98 Registry? ("Justin R. Smith")
PS/2 mouse (Pat & Nelda Bradford)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Chad Dale)
Re: Corel WP8.0 Personal Edition is Out! (Peter D. pawelek)
partition problem (Juhani Vanhala)
How much space needed? (Cmdr_Joe)
Re: Linux or FreeBSD? (Tom Keats)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Whats Linux's equiv. of WIN98 Registry?
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 21:21:00 -0600
Christopher Browne wrote:
>
<some really humerous stuff snipped>
> This tends to result in great controversy; there are those that think
> that authoritarian fascism is a better arrangement.
With "push" comments like that you must do opinion polls for the major
news networks for a living.... :-)
> All extremists should be taken out and shot.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
What a hoot!
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Teng-Yan Loke)
Subject: Re: No floppy in Linux ?
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:52:51 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 22 Jan 1999 13:24:40 +0200, JiPUSTRADAMUS
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Thu, 21 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> What will I have to tell the system in order to access a floppy drive ?
>mount (for dos-disks)-t msdos /dev/fd0 /mounting/point.
What if the floppy was formatted in Win95? Shouldn't the type be vfat
then?
----
Teng-Yan Loke aka Cow | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.bigfoot.com/~lokety
PGP fingerprint F6 18 CE 37 4C 90 C4 C9 EE F1 D7 B0 5F AE D2 88
------------------------------
From: "Michael.Creasy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Graphics options greyed out in xconfig 2.2.0
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:28:24 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I was customizing my kernel 2.2.0 last night and noticed that under
console drivers there is an option to select Matrox g200 support. The
option (and all other graphics cards) where greyed out. Does anyone
else have this problem ? I'd like to try as I understand it enables you
to boot in a graphical mode with and i quote "a spiffy graphical penguin
displayed on boot". I just wanted to give a try. Any ideas ?
Michael
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M Sweger)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux on PC's not ready for Enterprise
Date: 28 Jan 1999 12:15:51 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Allen Crider ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Mark Ramos wrote:
: >
: > After receiving emails and seeing the threads on RAM limitations I realize
: > that this is yet another hardware limitation based on the PC architecture.
: > So I see Linux trying to gain acceptance in the high end market but there
: > are so many limitations.
: Linux and PCs in general gaining acceptance for Enterprise? No, a PC isn't going
: to replace something like an HP 9000 V-class, but where do you draw the line
: when it comes to 'enterprise'?
: > 4. You can't initialize the system from the serial port. I am running
: > systems now from console (thanks to Linux) but it starts at the lilo
: > prompt. I can't go into CMOS or see the memory count at boot up, etc. like
: > it can be done on Sparc architecture, SGI, HP..... Supposedly it can be
: > done with an add on board that is used in Compaq servers but c'mon this is
: > a joke!
Well, SGI and HP are going to put Linux on some of their machines. From
the BIZ wire on Wed 1/28/1997 the said mostly for their hardware designs
using the Merced. They're supporting Redhat. IBM is doing it on a case
by case basis (usually I guess when asked). One of the market growth
research guys said that Linux increased by 212% last year ( I presume
based on the number of redhat distributions bought). They rank it
number four again'st the other OS' (didn't mention who) with Msoft
#1. They also said it had 17% market share as compared to Msofts 36%.
36% seems kind of low?
--
Mike,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
------------------------------
From: Robin Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 00:55:10 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Arthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> In the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.misc didst Matthias Warkus <mawarkus@t-
>online.de> eloquently scribe:
>> : I suppose this wasn't any different even in pre-trauma Germany... At first I
>> : thought you were USAmerican, that's why I was so bewildered.
>>
>> Nah. UK.
>>
>> You pledge
>> : allegiance to the flag at *school* in the USA AFAIK.
>>
>> Yup. I think they do.
>> Stupid, isn't it?
>
>
>We Americans may be stupid, but you Brits would be
>singing "God Save the Queen" auf Deutsch without us. :)
>
>Arthur
I'm half American & half Brit the Russkis saved both halves imho
--
Robin Becker
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: LILO + shutdown questions
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:12:07 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 28 Jan 1999 12:23:32 GMT, David Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I need to default to DO$ until my kids get comfortable running Linux
>(RedHat 5.2). The changes I make to lilo.conf do not seem to have an
>affect on the boot. I've tried changing the wait time, but regardless
>of what I set it to it will always stay up for about 3 seconds.
I guess you must run LILO after you made changes to the lilo.conf file.
>Also I want users to be able to shutdown the system, but even when I
>give them shutdown permission the message when running shutdown is "only
>root can do that."
Here too, I think you have to run some configuration program, I don't know what
it is in RedHat.
=====================================================
Answers please in this newsgroup!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
=====================================================
------------------------------
From: Felix Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Setup modem on Sony Vaio 505 notebook
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 16:37:20 +1100
Thanks all for the help. I got the init string to work now (ATX1) and is
now fine ....
Cheers
Felix Lam wrote:
> hi there,
>
> I have been trying to setup the 56K internal modem with
> redhat 5.1 and tried to make call using minicom.
>
> ATDTxxxxxxxx
> NO DIAL TONE
>
> I have fiddled with the init string (ATZ, AT&FX3 ...etc)
> but still no luck. I checked the IRQ and stuff with setserial
> and appear fine (com2, i.e. on /dev/cua1).
>
> This modem works fine on my win98 setup.
>
> Thanks a lot in advance. This has been bugging me for
> nights now ... :(
--
Felix Lam
Alcatel Australia (NSD)
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: 61 2 9690 5928
------------------------------
From: "Hal Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux Quake Problems
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 22:42:48 -0500
I am running RH 5.2 on a P133 w/ a 6 meg Voodoo card, a 2 meg S3 for 2D, and
a CS4232 audio adapter. I have carefully followed all the directions in the
Linux Quake HOWTO (although I obviously missed something :)) and I am still
having problems. Here's the details:
- squake and quake.x11 will run fine the first time, but then the next time
I try to run them the graphics will be fine but the sound is messed up.
There is a clicking sound that is repeated every few seconds. In quake.x11
it is particularly bad.
- The 3dfx test program works fine, therefore I believe glide is properly
installed.
- glqwcl will run once, and then only if I have not run any other version of
quake first. The next time I try to run it will exit while loading .wav
files, w/o any error message.
- glquake will not run at all. I tried both the Mesa version and the 3dfx
version. The Mesa version gives me a seg fault, the 3dfx version simply
comes back to the command line, like nothing happened.
- qwsv works fine, although if I run it from an X window I get rather high
packet loss to the client unless I run it with 'nice -10'. OK, probably an
unrelated problem, but I thought I would throw that in.
- Have not tried either qwcl or qwcl.x11, because I don't think it would be
relevant, but if it would help to know whether those run let me know and I
will try them.
I am using the script file examples shown in the HOWTO to get around library
problems (libc5 vs. glibc, Mesa vs. 3dfx). I believe these are working,
because without the scripts I get seg faults, with them, with the exceptions
noted above, the programs at least start to run.
If anyone has any idea what is going on here *please* help me.
Thank you,
Hal Raymond
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Subject: Re: Zip disk
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:41:49 GMT
Quoting a message by "Doug Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> in comp.os.linux.misc:
>I bought an internal ATAPI IDE. It works great, is reasonably fast, and is
>reasonably inexpensive. It's also very easy to install.
I've also got an internal ATAPI IDE ZIP drive, and I'm pretty new to
Linux, so would you mind explaining to me how to install it?
Since I forgot to make a FAT staging partition between Linux and
OS/2, I have no way of getting files back to my OS/2 setup, other
than the dreaded floppies.
Thanks in advance!
--
= Blackdeath - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
== http://sprk.com/blackdeath
=== ICQ UIN # 3484915
==== Remove 'thirteen' to reply
... Open mouth, insert foot, echo stupidity internationally.
-!- GOPGP/2 v1.20
------------------------------
From: Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar#delete2email#.org>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Linux benchmarks
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:41:29 +0000
"Keith G. Murphy" wrote:
> I didn't see any charts, or a specific reference to what you're saying.
> I tried to go to one of the other pages linked to by that one, but it
> didn't work. :-)
This page?:
http://www.microsoft.com/misc/backstage/column_t2_1.htm
This is the one with the pretty graphs to show how crap the www.microsoft.com
uptime was and which also describes how flakey their back-end servers are.
Personally, I'd be ashamed to publish results like that :-|
Nick
------------------------------
From: Andrew Sun - UCE revokable account <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.os.linux,comp.protocols.ppp,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: LINUX PPP on a SPARC10
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 03:56:19 GMT
Moe wrote:
> I'm trying to connect via PPP to the University of Wisc PPP server. The modem
> connects and then I see garbage chars (in /var/log/messages that is).
>
> What would I see if they're assuming I'm going to start using PPP right away?
That is a variable too,
and depends on the server setup.
You may see:
Nothing at all. . .
It's waiting for your PPP.
Apparent garbage with "~", "{", and other characters,
which is PPP.
A login prompt, which your suppose to ignore.
> And how do I login?
PPP itself features authentication support
(usually called PAP or CHAP).
That's how you would identify yourself.
--
Sun, Andrew, "Using & Managing PPP," O'Reilly
------------------------------
From: "Justin R. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Whats Linux's equiv. of WIN98 Registry?
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:00:11 -0000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message ...
>In article <78p30b$jd6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>>I've been mucking around in the Win98 registry lately, and I wondered what
is
>>the Linux equivilant of the registry (or if there even is one)?
>>
>>I'm pre-newbie as I don't have a machine yet that I can install Linux
on...
>>
>>Curious,
>>
>>Mark
>/etc/* for the most part.
Linux isn't windowing system, so it doesn't need a registry.
KDE GNOME (desktop systems for Linux) both have their versions
of the registry.
------------------------------
From: Pat & Nelda Bradford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: PS/2 mouse
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 22:04:25 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm looking for information on the hardware protocols of the PS/2
mouse. As a project, I am having to develop hardware implemented in an
FPGA to interface to said mouse. So far, the most informative article I
have found has been at http://www.hut.fi/~then/mytexts/mouse.html. All
of the articles it references are either very old (can no longer be
retrieved off the web) or light on the hardware interface side.
Anyone have suggested references? Any other newsgroup more likely to
have this? Anything would be appreciated.
Please respond to the attention of [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks.
/s/
Pat Bradford
------------------------------
From: Chad Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 11:45:30 -0500
Michael Richard LaFrance wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:51:17 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lou) wrote:
> >
> > >It's about games.
> > >
> > >Let's face it games run the industry. You can do your word processing
> > >on a 286 (or on a 68030 like me) but if yo want to play games you need
> > >a really fast computer.
> >
> > Well, actually Linux made me upgrade to 64 Mb of RAM to make StarOffice run
> > faster. Just a word processor ? MS word 6.0 was happy with my 32 MB (It ran on
> > 16, as I remember). That's on a Pentium 120 machine.
> >
>
> What a goof, MS Word 6 will run on a 486/25 4mb Machine, as for Star Office, 24mb
> will keep it happy.
Ok, I don't know HOW you can substantiate a claim that Star Office is "happy" with
24MB of ram. I am running a P200MMX with 64MB of ram and SO5 take about 1.5 minutes
to load. Compared to Word on the same machine under NT (3 seconds) or WP8 under
Linux (about 5+ seconds). SO is a MAJOR pig, and reminds me of MS bloatware.
I understand that W6 is fast on a 486/4MB (I used to run it happily on my 386/40
4&8MB) but if you NEED word, it's becuase other people send you word documents, and
unless everyone uses Word6, you'll need a newer version. And Word97 needs Windows
95, which is a JOKE on anything less that a 486/66 24MB ram. (I find Word 95 is
slower than Word97 on any machine you run it on).
Anyways, there is a large delta between "can run" and "can run productivly".
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter D. pawelek)
Subject: Re: Corel WP8.0 Personal Edition is Out!
Date: 28 Jan 1999 14:07:05 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Peter Pawelek ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
>According to my calculations:
>(let
> ((usdprice 47)
> (exchangerate 1.35)
> (gst 1.07)
> (qst 1.08)
> (endprice 89))
> (- endprice
> (* usdprice
> exchangerate
> gst
> qst)))
>15.6772
>
>I'd say that Peter may have gotten charged about $16 for the benefit of
>a store in Quebec shipping it in from Ottawa and displaying it on their
>shelf, at least compared to your pricetag. (I could be off by up to a
>percent on QST. I haven't been in Quebec for a couple of years; have
>been to Ottawa, but not over to the Quebec side...)
Um, my Lisp is a bit rusty but aren't you forgetting to factor in shipping
if ordered from Linuxmall? That can drive up the price too. Besides, I
have no qualms about spending a bit extra to encourage my local retailer
to stock Linux software in addition to wall after wall of M$ offal. The
more Linux books and software in retail stores, the more of a 'presence'
it will occupy in the mind of Mr. John Q. Public.
Peter ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
------------------------------
From: Juhani Vanhala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: partition problem
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 01:57:32 +0000
Hi,
I have installed Linux on my second HD (8.4Gb Western Digital) On my
first HD I had Win NT and DOS. I left about 2.3 Gb unpartitioned space
to /dev/hdb when I installed Linux, because I was not sure if I was
going to need it for Win NT or for Linux.
Some days ago I found some use for that space and partitioned it with
Win NT and formatted to FAT. Everythig seemed to go smoothly and I was
able to copy ~2Gb of data to this new partition without problems. Today
I decided to mount that partiton to linux side too, and I used fdisk to
check which logical partition it was. To my surprize, fdisk found a
problem in mu partition table:
==============================================================
Disk /dev/hdb: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 1024 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hdb1 1 17 136521 83 Linux native
/dev/hdb2 18 1027 8112825 5 Extended
Partition 2 has different physical/logical endings:
phys=(1023, 254, 63) logical=(1026, 254, 63)
/dev/hdb5 18 527 4096543+ 83 Linux native
/dev/hdb6 528 719 1542208+ 83 Linux native
/dev/hdb7 720 735 128488+ 82 Linux swap
/dev/hdb8 736 1027 2345458+ 6 DOS 16-bit >=32M
=================================================================
Apparently Linux fdisk and Win NT has somewhat different opinnion about
the disk size. Is this a real problem and should I try to fix it
somehow. If so, which tool should I use?
Thanks,
Juhani
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cmdr_Joe)
Subject: How much space needed?
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 04:54:36 GMT
As you may have noticed, I am going to install RedHat Linux soon, more
specifically, the Mandrake distro. Now what sized partition should I
make for this distro? I know I should make it as big as possible, but
I only have 350 megs left on my hard drive. Will this be enough for me
to play with it, or will the initial installation leave me no space
left over?
Thanks!
--
Visit me on the web:
http://ijump.cjb.net
================================================
"Live every day as if it were your last, because
some day you'll be right"
------------------------------
From: Tom Keats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Linux or FreeBSD?
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 06:53:25 -0800
Steve Lamb wrote:
>
> On Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:07:57 GMT, Daniel McGregor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >as microsoft. I hear the old Adaptec drivers are buggy enough to bring
> >the system down from time to time.
>
> Define old. I've been using a 1542 for over a year now and my box only
> comes down when I am upgrading kernel or hardware.
>
my BSDi box has had a 1542B since 94/95 w/ nary a hiccup (i guess it's an
old grey mare now, though ...)
--
Who should be replaced with an Expert System?
remove NO_SPAM. from address to reply
------------------------------
** FOR YOUR REFERENCE **
The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests
to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is:
Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.misc) via:
Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites:
ftp.funet.fi pub/Linux
tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux
sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux
End of Linux-Misc Digest
******************************
